They had to do hard labour in the fields, I make pretty pictures in a comfy chair
The Peasant Life
Submitted 1 year ago by TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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kandoh@reddthat.com 1 year ago
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 year ago
Too bad there hasn’t been a massive increase in productivity since then to be able to have both.
RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, but I have double their life span.
Fingolfin@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Not so much for the men who actually worked:
From Wikipedia: While modern life expectancies are much higher than those in the Middle Ages and earlier,[244] adults in the Middle Ages did not die in their 30s or 40s on average. That was the life expectancy at birth, which was skewed by high infant and adolescent mortality. The life expectancy among adults was much higher;[245] a 21-year-old man in medieval England, for example, could expect to live to the age of 64.[246][245]
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Why do people invent random bullshit to support a bad point?
bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 1 year ago
- This is a shitpost community
- See point 1
Torvum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Like all jokes, shitposts are only funny with a touch of reality
BenLeMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
*fewer holidays
Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I fucking swear I see this mistake every single day these days. Does no one know the difference between less and fewer anymore?!?
BenLeMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There’s a growing amount of people (sic) who are unaware of the difference between countable and uncountable nouns. Just watch any YouTube video that happens to involve quantities of any kind. “Amount” has become the standard term. And it’s similar with “less”.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 year ago
Ben Le Man?
More like Stannis Le Mannis
MrIamsosmrt@feddit.de 1 year ago
With weekends, public holidays and vacation days I work 220 days a year and with 8 hours a day that’s probably not far off the total hours of the 150 work day medieval peasant
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Most medieval peasantry worked about 20–25 hours a week, usually with no regulation of any kind on taking your own breaks, chatting with your friends, and drinking on the job. Only very poor serfs with atypically cruel lords dealt with restrictions that were so invasive. People typically rose with the sun and stopped working shortly after midday to work on their own projects and go about their own business, and peasants on the sunny side of the mean had good reason to be satisfied with their quality of life. The work was often very hard work, and the disadvantages included both poverty and lack of civil liberties and both of them to degrees that are unthinkable by modern standards, but we’re just gonna have to take the L when it comes to the amount of time spent working. They really did have it better in that regard.
Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This basically backs up what I have read on the subject. I feel like the disconnect comes from what we categorize as “work” often not counting stuff like making stuff for yourself and your own home, lessons, tasks you could do keeping your hands busy while you socialized or talked, housework and so on. Depending on time and place (mostly pre-enclosure) the time and production one owed their lord was relatively low in most places and did come with minor kickbacks. The church did keep a lot of proper holidays and Sunday as a sabbath was observed but again in a society that doesn’t really have things like regular sit and watch style entertainments a lot of the things you did on your days off did produce something.
There’s also a lot of times of year where one’s work in regards to food production was relatively easy and others that required a lot of physical push. The lack of regular steady illumination after dark due to scarcity of material for rushlights and candles did mean more technical downtime but the trade off is there being less options of entertainments one could do in the dark.
Also the amount of incredibly litigious peasants in England was some evidence that in places there were some protection and recourse for lordly overreach. Peasants had surprising rates of literacy in some places but they really didn’t use it to read or write for entertainment. They used to to fight for access to stuff.
It’s kind of a difficult task to have discussions about how much work a society in time regularly does because of the unstated assumptions everyone has. We are all primed to veiw our modern lives as more convenient where we live better because of all the things we are not on the hook making ourselves which lends to our current hyper specialization… But with that hyper specialization comes an odd stagnation. The way we work with sharp delinineations between what counts as “work appropriate” behaviour and social ones is fairly mentally taxing and not what our ancestors did. The amount of formal interpersonal communication required by our tasks is higher. The diversity of tasks we do regularly is less. The people we are expected to impress regularly with high outputs and not just meeting a fairly low bar quota are relatively new. The amount of time we work is inflexible to the amount of energy we have during different seasons with expectations being that we operate at a steady efficiency over the course of the year. The idea that the amount of hours per day one works is fixed regardless of what actually needs doing before we have free time is different. The amount of time we can do tasks after dark has altered how we as a society operate. Work has changed to be utterly unrecognizable between the eras. There’s definitely some bonuses like to stability of food supply and efficiency of output but there’s a lot we do now that really works against our own needs as creatures so it’s really difficult to compare what counts as “work” and what doesn’t.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is such a load of horse shit.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Posts some shit on Shitposting forum
People ask for sources
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Bro did a statement, of course people gonna ask for sources
jaschen@lemm.ee 1 year ago
But we are living longer now. 35 years old is basically dead.
parascent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The babies died making average age less. Doesn’t mean those who got to adulthood lived to that age only.
KredeSeraf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah. If you made it past 10 or so you’d probably live to at least 50, with 60-70 not being common but also far from rare. All those dying kids and babies really bring down the average.
jcdenton@lemy.lol 1 year ago
Can I get a source on that?
TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Welcome back to c/Lemmy Shitpost, where everything’s made up and the points don’t matter.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The source is I made it the fuck up
Aabbcc@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This video was informative. It links its sources
Beardsley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah I’m with you here, but like we have a lot less plagues.
spudwart@spudwart.com 1 year ago
Were you not here the last 3 years?
TCBloo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Eh, that was only one plague as opposed to smallpox, malaria, diphtheria, measles, tuberculosis, rheumatic fever, etc.
TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Pandemic is not the same as a plague. Not by a long shot.
YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 year ago
Yea but all the information humanity has collected at my fingertips and a more diverse diet than any king in history is pretty neato.
TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 year ago
But that’s not really a rebuttal either. How about we have both? Why not all the benefits of progress together with less work?
YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 year ago
How about it? I’d sign up, but have you looked around? Do you think those hoarding wealth and power will willingly share it?
ikidd@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh, bullshit.
TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Low quality tankie meme detected.
But comrade you should happy to toil in field for glorious people’s party.
Because capitalism bad comrade.
Pogbom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Posts in favour of employee rights.
Must support communist dictatorships!
TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
OP isn’t posting in support of workers rights.
It is some thinly veiled attempt at suggesting workers are worse off today than when we were peasants. Which is complete horseshit and a typical trope of commies who want us to tear down our institutions.
Sheeple@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Completely politically illiterate person detected.
Harpsist@lemmy.world 1 year ago
about to make comment - checks sub-lemmy
Phew I almost said something serious on a silly sub.