with over a hundred vehicles steady burning gas all around
How are hundreds of car drivers as stupid as the dust on the road and don’t turn off their engines?
How do trains save fuel when they literally park on the tracks and block multiple intersections, with over a hundred vehicles steady burning gas all around waiting for the train to fucking move?
Submitted 15 hours ago by over_clox@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 7 hours ago
over_clox@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Good question.
Apparently, if you multiply two sides of two major intersections that are two lanes wide, backed up for over a half hour or so, then how many cars are being blocked from travel?
Sorry I didn’t get out and do an exact count, I can’t exactly be in two places at once, but this shit blocked all the intersections to our part of town.
Flying_Penguin@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
AC/heat doesnt work when the vehicle is turned off. Some vehicles require getting out and smacking the starter with a hammer to get it to turn over. Just to give a couple of reasons why you wouldnt want to turn off your vehicle when stuck by a train.
over_clox@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Yes, I’m familiar with reasons that passenger vehicles break down. Shit happens, I get that.
But the fucking miles long freight train itself shouldn’t break down 3 to 5 days a week, that’s what’s going on here.
MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
How do trains save fuel
But reducing the number of freight trucks on the road
over_clox@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
And blocking our fire trucks for over half an hour, ain’t that cute?
Usually we got a detour we can use, but the train chucklefucks blocked both major intersections at once today, blocking not only civilians but also emergency services.
MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
That’s a separate issue. You asked a question, and an answer was given.
I bet that your city is used to having trains, seeing as they’re pretty major infrastructure, and had the good sense to have multiple police and fire stations on each side, thus not negatively impacting their response times.
Have you called the station managers or whatever to file an official complaint? If not, you’re wasting your time complaining here.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
It seems someone in your region needs to learn about bridge technology.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
I’m not sure why people are down voting you so much.
This shit doesn’t happen anywhere else. If a train parked and blocked a crossing 3 times a day for half an hour at a time there would be an uproar.
Well I’m assuming there’d be an uproar, impossible to tell because all our tracks are double tracks to allow passing and trains don’t stop for no reason blocking crossings.
We also use bridges a lot.
over_clox@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
There’s about to be an uproar here, everyone in the area is suffering this stupid shit. Yeah, only one track to share between freight and passenger trains, so even if you wanna ignore passenger vehicles altogether, it’s still a serious fucking problem.
marcos@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Man, you have some really fucked-up traffic regulators. That kind of thing isn’t common even in poor countries.
over_clox@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I just tried the advice of another commenter, to call our local train station/authority. Guess what I got?
Robochick message: “We’re sorry, you have reached a number that has been disconnected or no longer in service”
☹️
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Like yeah it’s bad. The people who run the train company don’t give a fuck about you or the workers who are being held responsible for way more train than is safe for longer than is safe for them to be working. Oh and they always have to be on call 24/7.
It’s not the train’s fault, it’s capitalism. Take the trains back, let the workers run them safely and efficiently, and this won’t happen.
AA5B@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I imagine a big part of it is lack of infrastructure spendinf.
- Is there a place to stop for whatever reason they’re stopping?
- Are there always at least two tracks to prevent bottlenecks?
- are sidings big enough to fit any train allowed?
- are there sufficient non-grade crossings?
Or are we just letting freight lines continue to milk century old infrastructure without regard to anyone else?
over_clox@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
~300 feet to the right and they had a perfect parking spot, with three split rails to manage and rearrange their train cars. But the main rail, only one rail, shared between freight and passenger trains.
If they had train problems, well that’s understandable. Just not 3+ times a week!
They ain’t got their shit together, that’s for sure. ☹️
AA5B@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
That’s frustrating as hell
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 13 hours ago
In my state, train companies are fined if they block a crossing more than 10 minutes during the day or 15 minutes at night. But every so often we have to remind local politicians that those regs need to be upheld.
To answer your question directly, Diesel locomotives are actually Diesel generators that drive electric motors. When they’re stopped they cycle down the generators to a minimal count to maintain power. They’re more efficient in general because the engines are generally running at their peak efficiency RPMs (to drive gennies instead of the wheels). Unlike trucks that are rarely running at peak efficiency RPMs and will burn extra dirty at idle.
over_clox@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The question about train fuel consumption was not the question.
The question regards how much passenger vehicle fuel gets wasted when a train parks and blocks their path. Cause and effect yo, a train parks, blocking multiple intersections, and half them vehicles ain’t even gonna shut their engine off.
So, a train parks, over 100 vehicles park at direct and nearby intersections, many many gallons of fuel are being unnecessarily burned.
Yes, we shut our engine off while we waited, but half the chucklefucks out there won’t even do that…
seathru@quokk.au 10 hours ago
Good luck with this fight. Texas sued for the right of the state to enforce time limits on trains blocking intersections; and the supreme court told them to fuck off.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Why not build bridges?
HubertManne@piefed.social 12 hours ago
I don’t see the train as the problem in this scenario. Its not wasting gas the cars are. That being said there should be no train crossings they should all have bridges or such.
over_clox@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Cause and effect, train parks, blocks vehicles, and half the drivers refuse to shut off their engine.
Trains literally have their own parking areas, one such parking area literally about ~300 feet to the right of this photo. There was absolutely no reason they had to park where they did, dodging their literal 3 line maintenance track, by ~300 feet. Fuck they coulda put the train in reverse to use their maintenance tracks rather than blocking not one but two major intersections…
HubertManne@piefed.social 12 hours ago
oh. ours don’t park like that. I mean it takes a while for them to pass through but they don’t just stop. I mean I imagine in the past some breakdown issue might have caused it. I think I did not get your actual thing because its foreign to my experience.
swordgeek@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
You’re clearly looking for validation, not explanation. Off you go.
over_clox@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
No, I’m looking for an answer, or a means to pursue an answer, or even better, hopefully a solution.
Another commenter suggested I call the train authority/maintenance people. Sounds good on paper, but their number is disconnected.
porcoesphino@mander.xyz 11 hours ago
But you very clearly only asked how trains save fuel. By not editing the post to actually request an answer it still looks a lot like seeking validation
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
ALL YOU GOT TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ
Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Has anyone ever taught you to turn the engine off while waiting at a railway crossing?
over_clox@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Have you read any of my comments? Of course we did!
Half the chucklefucks around us didn’t though…
Nemo@slrpnk.net 14 hours ago
stop idling your engine
over_clox@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
We already know better and shut the engine off. What about all the ignorant fuckers around us with their engine still running though?
Jtee@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
That wouldn’t have anything to do with the train and would have everything to do with drivers.