Open Menu
AllLocalCommunitiesAbout
lotide
AllLocalCommunitiesAbout
Login

There Is Zero Evidence of a Shoplifting ‘Epidemic’

⁨206⁩ ⁨likes⁩

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨byroon@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨unitedkingdom@feddit.uk⁩

https://novaramedia.com/2023/10/31/there-is-zero-evidence-of-a-shoplifting-epidemic/

source

Comments

Sort:hotnewtop
  • erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Friendly reminder that if you see someone shoplifting food, no you fucking didn’t.

    source
    • riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      and remember to steal from corporations, not people

      source
      • DrPop@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I only steal from grocery chains, mom and pops don’t deserve it.

        source
    • Chariotwheel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Posting my favourite Green Arrow moment again:

      https://imgur.com/gallery/ZNelr3I

      source
    • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t break the law then😎

      source
      • elfin8er@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Translation: just starve to death

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The law as explained by a cartoon dog:

        youtu.be/r2xakGZvLjI

        Piped bot! You are needed!

        source
    • Compactor9679@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So you can just steal food?

      source
  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sure, but do you think the right wing nutjobs who get angry about things like this care about evidence?

    They’re glad of another excuse to validate their anger against “them”, and even if later evidence comes out to suggest something never happened, their rage and hatred has by this point only grown deeper.

    We’re on a path to a return to bring openly run by these sorts of people, and eventually all that deep hatred of “them” will come pouring out once there’s the power to act against them on a national scale.

    Us decent people are, by our nature, not angry and hateful enough to do anything to stop this until it’s far too late. History repeats itself over and over :-(

    source
    • rah@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They

      anger against “them”

      LOL oh the irony

      source
      • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        pronouns themselves aren’t a problem lol. he had a specific group in mind. “the characters who are complaining about this issue” the problem arises when the “them” is nebulous or used as a racist dig whistle. he is pointing out conversations using it as the latter here.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Rightwingers aren’t people and don’t deserve to be treated like people. That better for you?

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        God save us from ding-dongs who think ‘you are lying’ is a contradiction.

        source
  • BrightCandle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Way back in time I worked in a supermarket that first trialled self shopping. At the time this was done with special trolleys and boxes and hand scanners people took around the store to scan their own goods. The scheme survived about two years. The system was designed to gradually ramp up rescans by the checkout operators if prior scans had shown missing items. Certain people were clearly making a lot of mistakes (usually with expensive items like Whiskey) but many weren’t. The increased waits for rescans for the people who often made such “errors” destroyed the value for everyone else and they became increasingly angry on what should have been near instant checkouts.

    Its notable I think that almost all supermarkets today use self scanning despite all those earlier experiments showing that some people would use it to hide theft. This goes very much against the image of the pocket and exit that people have in their head. That was actually very uncommon and being a person who often greeted on the door it was my job to spot them. Most of the theft occurred through items that were smuggled through the checkout in some way.

    I don’t think self scanning is contributing to an increase in theft losses and the data shows its not. What I think it potentially contributes to is making it hard to identify the theft because there are less employees effectively as the security force. The decline in prosecutions is likely due to these changes that the supermarkets have adopted which they knew 25 years ago resulted in hidden theft.

    source
  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you see someone stealing food or baby stuff. It is a case of observational error, in reality you didn’t see shit.

    source
  • snacks@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    christ that is a badly written article. Oh wait its novara, the pound shop of journalism

    source
    • tenebrisnox@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve just read that and can’t see anything badly written. Where was the bad writing? (Or is it just their views you don’t agree with?)

      source
  • palordrolap@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Questions for retailers (who probably won't see this, but whatever):

    1. Do you have a security guard? Yes/No

    a) If yes, and you're still getting shoplifters, hire better security. Problem solved.
    b) No? Get a security guard. Problem solved.

    1. Still here? Are you complaining about having to pay for a security guard? Yes/No

    a) If No, why are you still here? Go hire that competent guard.
    b) If Yes:

    1. What's the cost of the shoplifting compared to having a security guard, taking wages, insurance and premiums into account? Less/More

    a) If Less, stop complaining, you're getting a bargain.
    b) More? Looks like hiring a security guard might be worth it after all.

    Do I shoplift? Ha. I'm currently agoraphobic and don't leave the house. My arms aren't that long.

    The last time I was in a physical store, I was of the opinion that as long as I can afford something I need, I'll pay for it. For things I merely want and can't justify the expense, I'll do without. (Sounds a bit like 3a.)

    And the last time I nicked something (calm down, put your monocle back on) it was probably a sweet from the pick & mix at Morrisons when I was 10 or something.

    source
    • HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      From what I recall, there are quite strict limits on the actions that a security guard can perform to actually detain someone, so actually a big factor is the police response time.

      Telling a little family-run corner shop to get a security guard isn’t that helpful

      source
      • palordrolap@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        D'oh. I had briefly forgotten that small shops still exist. Probably because the ones nearest me went out of business. Not because of shoplifting but because they were priced out by corporate stores.

        source
  • HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Interesting analysis.

    source
  • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s pretty large evidence of a car theft epidemic tho tbh

    source
    • Oneeightnine@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’d be personal theft. The police have already signaled they couldn’t give less of a shit about that.

      source
    • kool_newt@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is for Hyundais an Kias mostly tho right? And it’s due to them refusing to fix a major flaw making theft trivially easy. Something like that, here’s a link I’m too lazy to read but looks related.

      iihs.org/…/hyundais-kias-are-easy-targets-amid-bo…

      source
      • GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And it’s not in the UK, as the cars were sold with immobilisers here.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • byroon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is there? Genuinely asking as I’ve not heard of that

      source
      • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah it’s been fairly bad in north London for the past couple of years. Seems to have been particularly bad these last few months tbh.

        source