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The Iranians HAVE to realize that demanding the release of the unredacted Epstein files as a condition to re-open the strait of Hormuz is probably the strongest card they have right now...

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Submitted ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Beep@lemmus.org⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why? The files are meaningless at this point. Nobody was prosecuting trump or anyone else in the US over this.

    I can’t stress enough how little the files matter to him. The only people constantly relating the files to this war are people on social media and a few offhand quips by public figures.

    Trump is going after oil. Both Venezuela and Iran were attacked (depending on what minute you were listening as it changed a dozen times) ostensibly for regime change, but everyone knows that’s bullshit. He’s trying to control oil and energy prices. Multiple sources point this out, meanwhile the US press is saying shit like “Here’s what the Trump administration is doing to lower oil and gas prices. Is it working?” CBS news, “Trump’s unshackled presidency puts him at the center of the economy.” CNBC.

    It’s another, giant grift attempt to put himself in charge so he can coerce and bully other countries to get what he wants.

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    • stenAanden@feddit.dk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It would be the ultimate PR soft power move.

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      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What power is it over someone who is under no threat from it? I mean, if they actually did it and trump was immediately removed from power for it I’ll eat my hat, but from the look of things my hat is completely safe.

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  • mirshafie@europe.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d rather see them demanding that Israel joins the NPT, but they don’t want to legitimize the existence of a genocide state by asking it to do things.

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  • zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Biden administration had the Epstein files. If they contained damning evidence why would they not use the files against Trump after they lost the election?

    And if the files are that damning to the Trmup admin what is stopping him from just keeping up dropping bombs?

    Currently it’s a question on how much consessions Iran have to offer for US to stop bombing. Not what demands they can issue to not block the strait.

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    • Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because Democrats are complicit in everything that Republicans do. Democrats exist to create the appearance of opposition, while in reality both parties serve the interests of the wealthy. Uncovering the wealthy class’s depraved deeds does not serve those interests, which is why neither party really wants that.

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      • WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We need to delineate here. It’s not all Democrats, it’s ones that are taking corporate, AIPAC and other dark money. Grassroots campaigns are the only successful way to get candidates that represent working class constituents because that’s where the money comes from. This all goes back to Citizen’s United, which was the largest attack on democracy in my lifetime.

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    • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because it screws politicians on both sides.

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      • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Realistically Biden probably cared more about all the Israeli officials showing up in there and the appearance that Epstein was a Mossad asset than it being embarrassing for like the Clintons, etc.

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    • stenAanden@feddit.dk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wasn’t this because:

      1. The investigation in to Maxwell was in process so it would hurt the case against her to release them?
      2. They were legally sealed until 2024?
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      • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Also, the Bush Admin gave Epstein a plea deal in 2008, but under Obama FBI investigations continued culminating in arrest of Epstein and Maxwell.

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    • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because it’s damning for both parties.

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    • WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Also, the attorney general isn’t supposed to be a lapdog for the president, they’re supposed to act autonomously to enforce checks and balances and… The law. I know, silly notion. This is a huge shift in corruption that sadly, the American people have come to accept due to propaganda and normalization. The files were sealed due to the Maxwell investigation by a federal judge, which is normal during an ongoing investigation. Then they were reopened by Congress during the Trump regime and the attorney general doesn’t follow the law and there’s no accountability due to the aforementioned efforts.

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    • First_Thunder@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The question is also, why weren’t they deleted to in the first Trump admin

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  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If Iranian elites aren’t in the Epstein files it is just because they had a better source fir it.

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    • chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Better? I’m not sure you’d qualify that, but local, that I’m sure of.

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  • karashta@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because our entire government has been corrupted by the same capital class that are the Epstein class.

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    • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just the majority party, actually.

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      • db2@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s a foolish assumption.

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  • Klox@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Strongest card to get nuked? Wut…

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    • e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      totally, they’d rather have the whole world burn than stop protecting their god-chosen elite

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  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Honestly, I don’t think Iranian control of the strait in any capacity is going to be up for negotiation, so it would alread be a nonstarter before they made any demands.

    They would have to demand release of the Epstein Files in return for withdrawing from the strait.

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    • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Iranians essentially practicing piracy in the strait is unambiguously counter to international law (UNCLOS), and breaks one of the fundamental elements of how world diplomacy has worked in the modern world. What the Iranians are doing is in fact an act of war against all nations which ships the Iranian stop.

      Countries like those in the EU are keeping a low profile right now, because Trump has made such a giant mess of the diplomacy. But long term, I can’t imagine they will let this fly.

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  • Obnomus@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thanks I’ll be stealing this.

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    • Beep@lemmus.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🥺 Will you at least mention me as the source?

      Or will you do as me and steal without linking to the source?

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