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• ExtremeDullard@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Have you been to Finland?

  6 months of the year, homeless people would freeze to death in short order if they were left outside.

  Finland has homeless people, just not on the street.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    6 months of the year, homeless people would freeze to death

    True, but that does surprisingly little to prevent homelessness.

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    • protist@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      True, but that does surprisingly little to prevent homelessness.

      Yes, but it does a LOT to keep people experiencing homelessness of the streets and in shelter. In US cities that have harsh winters, they also have many fewer homeless folks visible on the streets than you’d find in California or Texas, where people can pretty much live outside in perpetuity

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  • starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So you’re saying homeless people have, um, homes?

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    • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Being in a shelter hardly qualifies as having a home. Unless you like shelters maybe…

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  • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same is true for much of Canada yet we can’t seem to shelter them either. It isn’t just the weather, the finnish government is far more compassionate towards homeless people than any other government I know of.

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  • neidu3@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My immediate thought too. We have homeless people here in Norway too. Homeless does not mean without housing or shelter.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Finland winter ranges from 23F to -4F

    Similar to Northern US states.

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• AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  WTF is wrong with their mindset?

  Unchecked capitalism and individualism. 

  Basically: “why should I help the others with my taxes if I’m doing ok?” and “profits over anything else”.

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  • Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just like Jesus would tell them to do it 😌

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• DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can’t talk about homelessness in America without talking about Ronald Reagan.

  When Reagan was elected Governor of California, the state had a large number of mental hospitals in place. They weren’t perfect, but treatment was available. reagan thought these places were a waste of tax payer money and had them closed. California now had a lot of homeless folks. They annoyed the locals, so the state had to hire more cops and build more jails.

  This worked so well that Reagan did exactly the same when he became President.

  My family lived in New York during that era. We went from a few homeless folks down on the Bowery to literally thousands. Every park was full.

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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Finland has actually tried to do something about it, contrary to USA where homelessness is borderline illegal, and the main policy against it is harassment to make them go somewhere else. Finland is a civilized society, USA is a sociopathic society.

  That said, homelessness is a challenge, but Finland has a program they call “housing first” to help prevent it, that has turned out to work better than what most countries do.

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• porcoesphino@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What the fuck is this and where are the mods?

  Agreed the US system is a joke but so is the trying to pitch this post as a question

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• melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My guess is ‘empathy’ and ‘honour’.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The United States doesn’t even consider food a human right, so why would they give a single flying fuck about housing?

  Pedophilia is apparently, however, a right that is guaranteed by the US Constitution.

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    not mention healthcare. pretty sure clean water is for those you can bid the highest. in bribes of course.

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• new_world_odor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s really your question here?

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• 555@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s cold and homeless people spend nights in public indoor places like airport lobbies and train stations.

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  • black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also if you try to spend the night in a station in America a guy with a gun will kindly see you back into the cold

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• Thavron@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  while Finns pay A TON in taxes

  Looks up Finnish tax brackets… Looks up Dutch (my) tax brackets… O-kay.

  Finland 2025 State Tax Brackets (Earned Income)

  €0 – €21,200: 12.64%
  €21,200 – €31,500: 19.00%
  €31,500 – €52,100: 30.25%
  €52,100 – €88,200: 34.00%
  Over €88,200: 44.00%
  

  Dutch tax brackets.

  Bracket 1: 35,75% (0 - €38.883).
  Bracket 2: 37,56% (€38.884 - €78.426).
  Bracket 3: 49,50% (above €78.426).
  

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• rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because it’s actually cheaper to just house homeless people than it is to take care of them on the street

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• Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Famously cold winters + not having a home to shelter in = not many homeless :(

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