Submitted 1 day ago by sem@piefed.blahaj.zone to [deleted]
Why don't cursive numbers exist?
People be writing words with the letters all connected in cursive so the quill didn’t have to lift up or whatever.
How come they didn’t do that with the digits in numbers?
Uppercase letters in succession don’t work in cursive. And almost nobody uses lowercase numbers, even back then.
Finally an answer. Thank you.
lowercase numbers
fucken gottem by accident lol
First off, only a subset of cursive systems connect all letters. These are called Continuous Cursive. Second, many cursive writing systems do include numbers.
Huh, I thought the only point of curse it was to connect the letters.
I searched online for cursive connected members, but I couldn’t find any.
00 on cheques . That normally has a line connecting at the top, that's the only one I can think of.
I’d imagine that whereas you can guess at confusing cursive letters in words from the others around them, you can’t do that with digits.
They do exist, though I dunno if you’d find any examples online
But they suck for most uses because there aren’t number words.
Like, in print or cursive, the word “pool” exists as a distinct combination of letters that can be recognized even with sloppy writing. I’m using that as an example because I’m dyslexic and that’s one of my favorite examples of how I manage to read as fast or faster than someone that isn’t.
However, 1984, 1776, 2025, they don’t necessarily have the same “weight” in memory where you would recognize them if the numbers are connected.
And with math connected numbers would be a shit show from top to bottom.
So there’s really no use case for learning connected numbers. They aren’t useful, and cause problems. Why learn Cyrillic if you never run into books printed in it? Even that would be a more useful thing to teach in schools than connected numbers. There’s no good reason for connected numbers except for private notation. Even then, you’d not save much time unless you’re writing a shit ton of numbers, and you’d better be able to practice both doing them and reading them if you want those notes to be useful later.
Afaik, nobody uses them at all nowadays. For anything. So finding instructions on how to do it isn’t likely online (though I’m going to check just out of curiosity and edit in if I find it). It would be unlikely to find any of the old texts that teach it even in a decent book collection.
We learned numbers in cursive class
Who said they don’t include numbers
Me
Why did you think there aren’t cursive numbers?
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Traditionally numbers in text should be written out fully, so “three hundred and twenty seven” instead of “327”
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In typesetting, numbers ten and under are always spelled out, and also numbers at the start of a sentence of any size. Numbers one, through ninety-nine are hyphenated if spelled out, ninety-nine percent of typesetters agree. Also, the “and” is frowned upon. It should be “three hundred and twenty-seven”, if quoting, if that is what was said, but three hundred twenty-seven otherwise.
However, numerals in text is fine, outside of the limitations above, and there are lowercase numerals in many classic typefaces that are less jarring to the eye in body type than the uppercase numerals.
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Eddyzh@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In a legal setting even those long numbers are still spelled out in contracts in many jurisdictions.
palordrolap@fedia.io 1 day ago
Depends on the dialect. That "and" is a requirement in British English.
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not hard rules, though. There’s a myriad of publishing styles. Each define different rules and guidelines to when and where numbers are spelled out. Hyphen was dropped from several guides, for example. The and has also been optional for certain publishing houses for a while. Academic and literary will differ in how they enforce this guides and exactly what they are. Language is relative, changing and fluid, and this was all different mere 30 years ago. It moves with the expectations of the audience.
Also, it is six seven. Respect the memes guidelines.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 day ago
The “and” is necessary in British English at least (saying that the US constitution uses it)
(In older forms it would be three hundred and seven and twenty)
db2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The meme isn’t sixty seven, pops.
bryndos@fedia.io 1 day ago
Because seven ate nine.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I thought that was only for single digit numbers. Or is that a more recent convention?
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 day ago
I don’t know how universal it was, but in old documents it’s common to see dates written out fully in the form of “on the thirty-first day of January in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty-six”