In 2015, the Fortingall Yew, one of the oldest trees in Europe, decided trans rights are tree rights and switched its sex to female 🏳️‍⚧️ eat shit transphobes

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• als@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Y’all ever undergo a sex change due to environmental stress?

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  • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No but a trans friend of mine is having enviromental stress.

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    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m cis and they give me environmental stress. “Dude, I’m just trying to order lunch. Why are you sharing these inside thoughts with me?”

      I wouldn’t trade it, but one bad thing about being an old white guy is assholes think I’m safe to unmask around, and Christ it skeeves me out. No, man, take those fucking thoughts to your grave.

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  • skvlp@lemmy.wtf ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Show this to republicans, or similar groups, and they’ll lose their shit and have a really bad day 😃

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• damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  🤓 Being trans has to do with gender identity, not sex. The whole foundation of transgenderism as a concept is that sex and gender identity are independent elements of a person. So as a corollary (I think, haven’t used that word in a while lol), no non-sapient creature can ever be trans, because you need consciousness to have a gender identity in the first place.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    if consciousness is imperative for gender. do sleeping people loose their gender?

    Naptime is trans erasure 😔

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    • io@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      everyone is agender atleast once a day /s

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  • ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not so much.

    Sex and gender are distinct elements. So whilst they’re not the same thing, they do interact with each other and influence each other to some extent or another. If they didn’t, then the world wouldn’t be full of people whose gender and sex are in alignment. For that matter, if they didn’t, we wouldn’t even understand the concept of sex and gender being in alignment.

    Also, “transgenderism” is a term popular with transphobes, because it frames trans people as a belief/ideology, rather than acknowledging their identity.

    no non-sapient creature can ever be trans, because you need consciousness to have a gender identity in the first place.

    But for all of that, strictly speaking, this is true.

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    • damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Also, “transgenderism” is a term popular with transphobes, because it frames trans people as a belief/ideology, rather than acknowledging their identity.

      What am I supposed to call it, when talking about this as a concept, outside of referring to a specific person. Transgendericity? Transgenderology?

      Throw me a bone here, don’t just insinuate I’m a transphobe just because I casually tossed ‘ism’ onto the end of a word to noun-ify it in a sentence, without even offering a correction.

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Okay but the tree is still trans.

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  • dvoraqs@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think you could say part of one’s identity exists outside of the person. Their self-identity should be respected and often will align with what they project outwards, but that’s where people get confused about a person and then stubborn ones get fed up with the whole idea.

    Anyway, in this case since the tree lacks sentience, it wouldn’t have an internalized gender that we could know, but we can see that its sexual characteristics have changed and give it a transexual label. The trans label can cover both.

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    • damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think you could say part of one’s identity exists outside of the person.

      That doesn’t really make sense to me. It would imply that some part of who you are is defined by outside perception, and I definitely don’t agree with that, especially considering that there are an indefinite number of outside perspectives, and some number of those perspectives could definitely be mutually exclusive with others, making it impossible for them both to be correct.

      Simple analogy: if a triangle is viewed ‘face-on’ by one person and directly ‘edge-on’ by another, the former will perceive it as a triangle, and the latter, as a line. Something can’t be a line and a triangle simultaneously, so how can these outside perspectives both be any part of what defines the identity of that object?

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• Kirp123@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  People have no idea what is or isn’t natural. A lot of animals and plants change sex due to various factors during their life.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_hermaphroditism

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s the same idiots who said being gay is unnatural, completely ignoring the multitude of gay animals.

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  • SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s basically the plot of Jurassic Park.

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• romanticremedy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Is it possible to learn this power?”

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  • far_university1990@reddthat.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Not from a conservative”

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• stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Many plants have both sexes at the same time, it is not uncommon. And some plants change sex under some circumstances, e.g. Papaya trees can do that

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• Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Hey, I think this is highly toxic!

  ;-)

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hue hue hue

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  • plactagonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Every part of the plant except the “berry” (it isn’t berry) is toxic.

    I want to try eating it but I heard that it isn’t that good.

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• Tracaine@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Were it a “curious, socratic style question” you wouldn’t have framed your question with loaded terminology designed to make trans people sound unreasonable and fake.

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    • Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just another transphobe JAQing off. I did report this 8 hours ago but it seems to have been ignored.

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  • JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A human doesn’t have to cut any pieces off or inject any chemicals to be transgender.

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  • JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Trans people are in the Bible. Elohim made Eve from a male rib, and Jesus had no Y chromosome.

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  • Fourth@mander.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    True. I do I think a human could internally decide to be trans, make any or no changes, declare it to others and still be valid as trans. Humans just really value certain observable indicators to tell what’s going on. There’s some kind of interesting metaphor about how humans being this way gives us a lot of interesting freedom to express ourselves but also limits us in many ways overlaid with what the tree is doing.

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• flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Well, plants really don’t have to deal with our binary bullshit. Most of them don’t have any sex because they have perfect flowers anyways, meaning their flowers have male and female gametes.

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• tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I was today old when I found out a yew is an evergreen and that I grew up around them (because I remember squishing those berries as a kid). Because they have needles I thought they were some kind of hemlock, and I had it in my head that yew leaves looked something like a willow’s.

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