it's just science, i guess

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• bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This guy literally had part of his brain eaten by worms.

  That should eternally preclude you from giving health advice.

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  • running_ragged@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “People shouldn’t take medical advice from me”

    • Rfk Jr.

    theguardian.com/…/rfk-jr-kennedy-senate-house-hea…

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  • VoterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Brain worms he got from eating roadkill.

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  • KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Didn’t he just claim that in a divorce court to explain neurological issues?

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  • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    He’s a real life zombie eating brains of gullible people.

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• Qwel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Hey so, is this a normal thing in meta analyses ?

  We identified 46 studies for inclusion in our analysis. Of these, 27 studies reported positive associations (significant links to NDDs), 9 showed null associations (no significant link), and 4 indicated negative associations (protective effects).

  27+9+4 is 40 I think ? What happened to the 6 other papers ? I’m always confused by the whole “we ignored half of the studies and we won’t tell you why”, if they can also ignore some of the 46 studies they selected, what does the 46 number mean ?

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They just ditched the studies they didn't like.

    https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-study-supports-evidence-that-prenatal-acetaminophen-use-may-be-linked-to-increased-risk-of-autism-and-adhd

    “Our findings show that higher-quality studies are more likely to show a link between prenatal acetaminophen exposure and increased risks of autism and ADHD,”

    The study was funded by the agencies RFK Jr heads. He said this spring that he would have an answer in September, which coincidentally is the month after this study that he wanted came out.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      we think the studies that confirm our bias are higher quality

      What a fucking joke

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• takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But that’s ok, he realized this when being high on heroine.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I wish he would just legalize that, it would probably be the least unhealthy of his policy changes lol.

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• Hegar@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Raw milk is way tastier though. The clearest memory I have from visiting the UK at 9 y/o was the milk from the milk rounds being unreasonably delicious. Like so much better i wasn't sure it was milk.

  It's obviously not the right choice to fulfill the nations milk needs, that's a public health disaster. But I wish it was available in limited, risk-minimized contexts like in most of Europe.

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  • elgordino@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    the milk from the milk rounds

    This wasn’t raw milk. It was still pasteurised. Just not homogenised.

    Homogenisation mixes the fat in the milk more effectively so you don’t get separation in the milk which increases its shelf life. Your memories of the tasty milk were probably the creamy part at the top of unshaken pasteurised but not homogenised milk.

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    • Hegar@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ah, could be. There's non-homogenized milk that we get sometimes here but it's nowhere as good as I remember that UK milk being. Maybe it's just distant childhood memories being incorrect.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That milk is still pasteurised, it’s not raw.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    UK/EU dairy shreds my insides.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    that’s because it hasn’t had crean removed and it’s not diluted, nothing to do with making it safe to drink.

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• zephiriz@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Forgot brain worms.

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• Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I hate the guy as much as anybody but it is a real study.

  hsph.harvard.edu/…/using-acetaminophen-during-pre…

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes and there are also “real studies” that say smoking is healthy.

    Just because there’s words formatted a certain way in a PDF doesn’t mean it has any merit.

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    • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I added it in to my previous response but I figure I’ll just do it as a reply. The study was submitted in May so he very well may have seen it come up in his autism alerts. I’m sure he has some kind of autism study feed.

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    A real study funded by the agencies headed by RFK Jr finding vague correlation with taking pain medications worded consistently as 'may cause' and with caveats that women should consult their doctor.

    This past spring RFK Jr said he would have an answer in September because he set up this study to conclude in August. This is absolute bullshit.

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    • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Easy to state but do you have any proof of the connection? I’ve seen refutations of the study claiming the connection was merely the previously understood connection between the age of the mother and autism risk, but that’s just random internet comments.

      What you’re claiming is something much more sinister than a mere mistake.

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• thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Breaking news

  Random person (me) links Republican Party of the USA to idiocy!

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• bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Inhaling bottles of paracetamol so I get better at maths. Wish me luck chat

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• S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Autism was discovered 40 years before Tylenol was invented…

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  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Copy and pasting from my other reply to this claim:

    Please don’t continue to share this “fact.” I know it sounds like a really good gotcha, but it’s not. Tylenol is just a brand name producer of the drug acetominophen, known in most of the rest of the world as paracetomol. It’s been around since at least 1878, and possibly earlier (there are claims it was produced in 1852). Autism was first described by Leo Kanner in 1943. Obviously, anyone sane knows that it’s been around a lot longer than that, probably as long as humans have been humans, but the people you’re trying to reach with this claim are obviously going to assert that it first appeared around the same time that it was first identified, or, at the very least, that it’s appearance likely aligns with the invention of paracetomol.

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Adding to that: “links to” doesn’t mean “is exclusively caused by”.

      That gotcha would only work if that was the claim.

      So the argument reads a little like “People died before the Ford Model T entered the market, so obviously deaths aren’t caused by cars running over pedestrians.”

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    • S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fair enough I edited my post.

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• redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Kenvue lawyers right now 🫡😂🤣🤑🥳

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• RubberElectrons@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Tylenol was invented after autism was discovered. This is fucking stupid.

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  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please don’t continue to share this “fact.” I know it sounds like a really good gotcha, but it’s not. Tylenol is just a brand name producer of the drug acetominophen, known in most of the rest of the world as paracetomol. It’s been around since at least 1878, and possibly earlier (there are claims it was produced in 1852). Autism was first described by Leo Kanner in 1943. Obviously, anyone sane knows that it’s been around a lot longer than that, probably as long as humans have been humans, but the people you’re trying to reach with this claim are obviously going to assert that it first appeared around the same time that it was first identified, or, at the very least, that it’s appearance likely aligns with the invention of paracetomol.

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    • Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Quit being dumb. It didn’t enter widespread usage until the 1950s.

      People from the 1800s and late 1900s had heroine cough syrup and cocaine Coca Cola. Paracetamol and phenacetin had extremely limited usage … something about destroying body organs.

      Bots are gonna bot.

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Adding to that what @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works said: “links to” doesn’t mean “is exclusively caused by”.

    That gotcha would only work if that was the claim.

    So the argument reads a little like “People died before the Ford Model T entered the market, so obviously deaths aren’t caused by cars running over pedestrians.”

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    • Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Argue with the drug makers, not me. Trump is stupid, RFK is totally fucking stupid.

      npr.org/…/trump-vaccines-tylenol-autism-acetamino…

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• f1error@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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  • ook@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I mean, it probably doesn’t but that explanation, “autism existed way before tylenol soit cannot cause it” is quite weak.

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People died already 10 000 years ago.

    The Ford Model T was released in 1908.

    Anyone trying to tell you that being run over by a car kills people is entirely full of crap.

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    There’s real arguments that can be used. No need to publish weak crap that’s easily refuted.

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tylenol is a brand the drugs been around for a few hundred years.

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  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tylenol is a brand name for paracetomol (AKA acetominophen). It was first created in either 1878 or 1852 depending on which claims you believe about its discovery.

    The claim that autism was differentiated from schizophrenia in 1911 is unsourced, and seems suspect given that Leo Kanner first described autism in 1943, but even if we accept it as true, it still puts the discovery of autism after the discovery of paracetomol.

    RFK Jr is full of crap, and it doesn’t matter when autism was discovered, because it’s genetic and has probably been around as long as humans have, but trying to pull a gotcha like this is just going to make you look stupid.

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sighance more like

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