Love that most of the world’s governments came together and said “collective punishment is bad, we should make it illegal during times of war” and shit like this can still fly within any first world country.
Now everyone must pay for someone else's vandalism.
Submitted 1 year ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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giantofthenorth@lemm.ee 1 year ago
cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
How do you think it works in condo buildings and residential co-ops?
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
They generally try to find a responsible party and bill them, file an insurance claim, use the general maintenance budget, and special assessments as a last resort.
harmonea@kbin.social 1 year ago
This., They should be going through insurance for this.
Of course, the insurance rates would rise, and they'd still be passing on that increase to the residents, but residents would be slightly less bitchy about it since the extra layers of opacity would make it seem like "just more of the usual greed and inflation."
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Or in the wider world with taxpayers
Carighan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s… how public infrastructure works?
You try to find the responsible party. If yes, they have to pay for repairs/damages.
If not, the tax money has to pay for it, as the infrastructure is needed.That’s exactly how it already works.
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Pretty sure we all saw drawing dicks everywhere.
TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 1 year ago
Un-dean-iable
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lies! It was the least popular professor. I heard this is actually just the new season of Survivor: Academia.
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
My solution would be this:
Have a running total for damages caused by vandals and call it a “Vandalism Lottery”. When someone is caught vandalizing in the community, they win the lottery, but instead of getting money, they pay whatever that lottery amount is up to. $700,000? To bad! Work the rest of your life to pay it off.
And to keep it fair, the starting amount should be no less than $20,000.
On top of that, they should be required to clean up any identified vandalism for at least the next year.
It should NEVER be at the loss of residents, students, or taxpayers to recoup damage caused by idiots.
And yes, I’m salty because vandals caused over $50,000 to a brand-new waterfront park we had open this past year, and the Vandalism Lottery would have been a wonderful prize to the jackasses who got caught!
Arrakis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This seems…unlawful…
Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A lot can be legal if you agree to it. But they absolutely can’t unilaterally declare this rule into effect.
Just don’t pay, what are they gonna do? Sue you for damages that they admit themselves can’t prove?
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In a general sense, you are completely right, but this seems to be a college. By being a student, you’ve agreed to ALL the terms they hand you. If you decline, then you aren’t a student anymore. Even if you pay EVERYTHING you owe except the unfair vandalism fee, you’re not getting a diploma.
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I really like this. You can’t imagine how horrible every bathroom in my university was and as soon as one is fixed and repaired it get destroyed, and i mean destroyed as in stall doors being broken and sometimes partially or completely ripped , toilets getting beyond clogged and shit smeared everywhere, faucets broken,etc.
KeepFlying@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But would this policy actually prevent that? A vandal in a community of 100 people would only be charged 1% of the repair fees (assuming they aren’t caught), seems like a meaningless disincentive for them.
And forcing community members to self-police or be charged fees is asking for trouble.
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Someone ought know who did it. Anonymous tips could work. I don’t consider it snitching because the bastard(s) is making it worse for everyone just for some thrill or a dumb dare. Honestly, Fuck them.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is when you set hidden cameras in the hallways and have maintenance check hourly. The second something happens it goes to security footage. Who was in there?
It seriously only takes a couple people to do stuff like that and keep stuff wrecked for everyone.
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
They only installed cameras like last year but yeah it’s the best solution. I think that if they give some jail time to the first POS they caught then it’d scare everyone enough to stop it from ever happening again.
Lycerius@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The HRE ain’t gonna do shit since it hasn’t existed since 1806.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Voltaire would argue that even then it didn’t
jayrhacker@kbin.social 1 year ago
Approximately 30 days before students are charged, a notice will be sent to community members in an effort to identify the responsible individual(s) for additional investigation.
Ah, so if you don't rat out the vandals, you have to pay
FuntyMcCraiger@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Weird that you wouldn’t snitch on the dude who smears poop on the walls.
I’d like to think everyone would give you a pass for that.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah I have a feeling this is more about paint on walls and that kind of thing. The phantom shitter has no friends.
sadreality@kbin.social 1 year ago
That assumes you know who did lol
Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This happened to me in college. The dorms were “locked” over the holidays and student residents were not allowed to even access the dorm building, when we returned back to school after new year’s, the hallway and apartment doors had been vandalized. The university passed the bill on to each of the residents of the building, even without any way we could have stopped it, since campus police would’ve arrested anyone found attempting to get into our dorms.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What a great way to ensure you’ll never get donations from some specific alumni
uis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What is HRE?
Koppensneller@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Holy Roman Empire.
Tenbot@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The Holy Roman Empire.
Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I drew the dicks!
peereboominc@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Just send them all the bills you have because “this acacemic year, you are implementing a You Pay For Me Policy”.
Quik@infosec.pub 1 year ago
In fact, you could right away send them bills for every incident you don’t exactly know that they didn’t cause it…
war@kbin.social 1 year ago
This is a violation of the Geneva Convention, article 3.
FunkyMonk@kbin.social 1 year ago
Yahuh... now do one for police unions.
Arrakis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Aw come on now, we can’t be holding our public servants to account for their actions now can we? You silly billy
jhulten@infosec.pub 1 year ago
Oh sweetie… They’re not servants of the PUBLIC…
superduperenigma@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Police should have to carry professional insurance just like doctors carry malpractice insurance.
Change my mind.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 year ago
I don’t think it will work at all. I think it would make the problem much worse, not better.
Think about that for a second: Police are never convicted, and rarely officially sanctioned. They always get away with it. Insurance will never pay out, so the cost of insuring officers will be next to nothing.
But, now we have an insurer with a vested interest in clearing the officer of wrongdoing, lest they be forced to pay a claim.
slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 1 year ago
They’d have to work a week of overtime to afford the sky high cost.