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• bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are CMOS batteries still a thing? Removing that and the laptop battery should wipe the BIOS to the default settings

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That hasn’t worked on any (good) machine for the last 20 years. Especially now in the EFI age any important settings like that are stored in nvram.

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  • cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe you can check the manual if the laptop has a CMOS battery. If it does, you’ll have to take apart the laptop to remove the battery for a few minutes, which will reset all the settings.

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• sad_detective_man@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  sorry for taking a tangent and let me preface by saying I’m not criticizing your setup or desire for security at all. it’s obviously adding a particular kind of physical roadblock to what stealing your stuff would require.

  but I discovered that BIOS setting at a young age and have had this burning question about what exactly does it protect? it does prevent booting but in a situation where somebody has access to your computer that only really stops them from using your motherboard right? is OP’s usecase the actual intention, where somebody would be required to physically steal at least part of the computer in order to access it?

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  • Baleine@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On school computers it blocked us from just booting a live usb and accessing the whole disk

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  • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Motherboard has a key on it that is used to generate a key pair with your disk when encrypted. So you can’t just snag the drive and pop it in another computer.

    Note; I have simplified the technical details above for simplicity, on a technical level you’d want to read up for a technically corrected explanation.

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    • sad_detective_man@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ohhhhhh. I had no idea it did that. no, thank you for simplifying it. I’m only self-taught so I barely have a hobbyist’s understanding of computers.

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• NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s an Asus Zenbook btw if you’re wondering.

  Of fucking course it’s an asus. There’s your problem right there. They don’t know what the hell they’re doing, and no one should ever buy anything this company makes.

  Source: I have also been burned by them, and only afterwards did I hear a lot of other people’s horror stories. It’s a shit company.

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  • alphapuggle@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Their tag line is “in search of incredibly” for a reason, they sure as fuck haven’t found it!

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  • kalpol@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is this new? I have some 10 year old ish Asus motherboards that have been really solid

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    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not sure. My Asus laptop is about 5-7 years old (just woke up and can’t quite do the math…). They’ve also really been screwing up on the security front: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC8qfXxAhAw

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  • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had one die on me out of nowhere, the fans would start spinning, but nothing else would happen.
    I googled it and the top solution is to put it away for a few years and forget about it, then, it miraculously starts working again.
    Hasn’t worked for me so far.

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  • blackbeards_bounty@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What do you consider a good laptop manufacturer?

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    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You know, that’s a great question that I don’t have a good answer to. I don’t have enough experience with laptops so take this with a bucketful of salt, but I think:

      Framework looks amazing, but perhaps a bit niche: frame.work (next time I’m in the market for a laptop, I think this is what I’ll get)

      MSI is alright I think? So is Dell, maybe?

      In my head HP has an absolutely dreadful reputation, but that’s just because of printers. A friend of mine is pleased with her HP laptop.

      Lenovo, I’m not sure. They’ve had an inexcusable security blunder in the past which made me write them off ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enHfpHMBo4 ) but maybe they’ve turned things around, I really don’t know.

      The laptop market is in a really poor state, other than macbooks (which aren’t really relevant for this discussion for obvious reasons) it’s a race to the bottom and everyone’s making compromises that I really don’t want to see.

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh Asus! You fucked up! For this, I’m out. Never again.

  Like other things in life, there’s now nothing Asus can do or say that will convince me to ever buy one ever again.

  Remember ATI video cards? Yup, never again. There’s no more ATI. It was nice while it lasts.

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  • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ATI was bought by AMD in 2006 and the brand name phased out by 2010. So there’s still ATI cards, there just AMD instead.

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    • altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I understand what you’re saying but I think we can both agree that nobody is buying ATI cards.

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  • cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean… presumably Asus designed it though…

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• Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  is it not possible to delete/turn off the user/boot password requirement all together and then save and reboot then try setting it again? I’ve never seen a mb that cared about user password entry, admin gave bios access and from there any setting was able

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• floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did you try typing in the user password when it asks for a password?

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  • cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m very sorry, I missed the part when you said you didn’t know the user password. My bad!

      It sounds like the way that the user space is managed in your bios won’t permit any other alternatives other than the possibility of deleting the user account from the administrator account? Is that possible? You’re not gonna be able to reset that password unless you know it. That’s kind of the point of the password. Unfortunately, it seems that your bios does not allow for you to change the user password, but it may let you delete the account altogether and re-create it with a new password. That however, may cause a bunch of other problems that I can’t really foresee without knowing a lot more information.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If it honestly doesn’t permit the User password to be reset, is there a “factory reset the whole BIOS” option?

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  • cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Have you tried doing a full BIOS update? As in, download from the manufacturer. I wonder if that would overwrite the passwords.

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• ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You could try to dump the EEPROM and get a hold of the user password or override it by reprogramming it.

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Apparantly

  Yep.

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• alphapuggle@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s this, looks kinda fishy but it only asks for a date from the bios and spits out a code without asking for payment, couldn’t hurt to try

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• the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does resetting the bios not clear the user password?

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