Submitted 1 year ago by quinten@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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For those who have pre-ordered it is already here, the rest have to wait a little longer. Starfield is finally here! Have you bought it, why or why not? If you’ve already played it, what do you think of it? We are very curious!
Discuss all things Starfield below!
As someone who found NMS boring very fast, will I like this game? I just want a game I can sink a ton of time in with moderately fun combat and progression.
They're completely different games. If you like other BGS games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3/4) you'll probably like this. If you didn't, you absolutely won't like this.
I really liked Skyrim. I want another experience like that. I don’t care about flying around space
I still have to play Starfield, but the most boring aspect for me of NMS was the writing. I’ve found it incredibly bad, so i guess starfield is better in that regard
The lack of real stories was a disappointment but I like the whole empty world find your own fun kinda thing in NMS, we started playing after MP was fixed and within 10 mins I had a carrier 😂
Won’t play it until the modding scene becomes bigger
I’ve been playing Bethesda games vanilla for my first playthrough since Oblivion. By the time I finished my first run, usually a healthy modding scene had already developed.
Absolutely loving it. 25 hours in and a lot more to come, and I’ve barely scratched the surface of the game. I’ve already got a second play through on the mind.
This is me. Starfield, warts and all, is more engrossing than anything else I’ve played this year.
No VR.
Not gonna buy until the VR modding community catches up to it and the game is on sale.
I’m certainly enjoying playing. I just wish Bethesda could stop making potato people with weird talking animations and the whole muted, grainy, weird Bethesda art style, but that aside it’s pretty fun. I wasn’t watching a bunch of footage beforehand, so I didn’t build up expectations to get let down. I think paying too much attention to things said during development (which is where lots of changes happen) is pretty dumb.
Some populated areas are lacking that nice complex shadows, without nice lighting it looks flat
Same. Loving my time with it. It’s great that they’ve captured the things I loved about their old games (no surprise) but too bad they can’t alleviate the immersion breaking issues of their old games (again no surprise).
My experience is much like the others are saying in here. My initial response was oh wow it’s like no mans sky, but worse. I’m mostly underwhelmed with it after a few hours of game play, and I’m torn between grinding along, hoping it gets better, or getting a refund before I’ve played for too long.
That’s the part that scares me, I’ve played no man’s sky, it was fun for a short while but then got tired pretty quickly.
If this game keeps getting compared to no man’s sky and is said to come up short, then I’m definitely gonna wait to try it for cheap.
I think this game will have more story focus to it than no man’s sky, which is why I’m hesitant to make such a snap decision as I’ve barely gotten into the story.
I've only played a couple hours so far but I don't understand the comparisons to no mans sky beyond the setting. It's not a similar game at all.
Having a very weird “relationship” with this game.
Switched to linux for my desktop so PC gamepass is… a hassle. Which means I would be playing this on my xbox. But also? There is a full month of “early access” that I need to wait through to play the game I “own”?
Caught a few streams yesterday and it looked fun in that “Outer Worlds without the charm” kind of way. Could see myself going hard on the ship editor but… Avorion and Space Engineers already exist. Also Cosmoteer
Which makes this weird. It looks fine/good (like basically any bethesda game since Oblivion) but I kind of already am having difficulty mustering up the interest to go preload it on my xbox. Suspect I’ll just “forget” about this game until a Steam sale a few years from now. Kind of like Fallout 4 (although, I have yet to actually bother with that outside of ymfah videos).
The standard editing that comes with gamepass officially releases 9/6 in the US but due to timezones could be playable 9/5 in the evening. So it could only be a couple more days for the general release assuming you are in the US.
Ah, nifty.
“Graphics card not supported.”
Find out I have to update Windows.
Hadn’t updated since around 2018 and everything worked fine, but OK, fine, let’s try it.
Can’t figure out how to reenable Windows update (it kept trying to come back, like a dog swallowing and revomiting its own puke, so at some point I’d disabled it with extreme prejudice, and it seems it stuck).
Manage to find a Microsoft tool that’ll update Windows 10 to the latest version without going through Windows update.
Upgrade assistant does it’s thing and at seventy-something percent complains VirtualBox isn’t compatible and must be uninstalled. Yeah, not doing that, got my family’s mail server in there. I was only 2 major versions behind, shouldn’t’ve been a problem, but all right, have it your way.
Update VirtualBox, looks like Upgrade assistant is finally happy, after a couple aeons Windows is updated.
“Graphics card not supported.” Fuck. You.
Update graphics drivers (couple more aeons; in for a penny, in for a pounding).
While Nvidia does its thing, try to start the VMs in the new version of VirtualBox. “Can’t start operating system”. Well, fuck.
Eventually figure out that at some point around version 6 VHD support got fubared and Oracle never fixed it. Start converting VHD disks to VDIs, which should fix it. What’s a few more aeons between friends.
While I’m at it the drivers finish updating. Try to start the game again, third time’s the charm.
Fans reach take off speed! Main screen goes black! Logos start showing! It lives!
“Compiling 1 of 7000 shaders”
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System grinds to a halt. Finally manage to open program manager and kill the game. Probably shouldn’t have started it while I was migrating the virtual disks. (The fact that it’s a 980ti probably doesn’t help either, but hey, it’s worked perfectly till now, including with Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur’s Gate 3, and by jingo it’ll work with Starfield).
It just works.
Anyway, meanwhile the disks finish migrating, and at least now the VMs work. Update the VirtualBox extensions just to be sure, reboot the VM…
Black screen.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Find out at some point the display drivers got fubared for Windows 2003 / XP and Oracle never fixed it. Manage to start the VM in safe and uninstall the VirtualBox extensions; after fixing the display settings, it sort of works again. Yay. Second VM is staying with v5.x extensions, thank you very much.
Say what you want about Bethesda (they almost certainly deserve it), but at least they ain’t Oracle.
Sigh.
Gonna eat something, relax a bit, and leave the game to compile shaders while I sleep.
With luck, tomorrow it’ll be done, and it’ll just work.
You’re throwing back “It just works.” at them because you failed to maintain a Windows VM that you haven’t updated in FIVE YEARS? Not to mention that you really expect game dev studios test and support running a game in virtual box??
If you want to do something tech savvy, that’s on you to do the tech part.
This has to be one of the most wild “gamer” complaints I’ve ever seen.
And yet, every other game I’ve tried so far (including several with better graphics) actually worked out of the box without requiring Windows or even driver updates, or having to spend ages compiling shaders. 🤷♂️
You have done that yourself
True, I should’ve probably waited for the community patch that’ll fix these issues.
VirtualBox isn’t compatible and must be uninstalled. Yeah, not doing that, got my family’s mail server in there
In all seriousness, might be worth just setting up a server separate from your gaming system.
I mean, I've thrown out many computers that would be entirely capable of running a mail server and the like.
I’d disown you if you were family and I found out you were hosting my email on a VM in a 5 years-out-of-date windows PC. Some things are simply unforgivable.
Yeah, probable, though computers take space, and electricity… though, admittedly, these days you can probably run a mail server on a raspberry pi (if you can get your hands on one) powered by a potato… 🤔
The plan sort of was to eventually (once I can afford a new machine) move everything to VMs, with GPU pass through for the gaming one (I can’t afford a dedicated gaming machine — nor have the space for it — and I want something I can easily reset to a clean installation in case of Denuvo and similar malware), but moving the servers and firewall to a small dedicated machine might indeed be a more realistic (and maybe even cheaper) approach…
I’m surprised at how well it’s running on my machine, though I haven’t messed with rhe settings much.
It’s an enormous game though. That is very clear so far
What are your pc specs?
Ryzen 7 3700x, 32gb DDR4, nVidia RTX 2070 Super, @ 1440p.
Did the game pass for a month. No way I’ll spend 70. So far not impressed. I really don’t care for the start of the game
20 hours in, I really like it… just wish the spaceship stuff worked more like Elite Dangerous
I can’t get past the intro mission, it always crashes, and takes my whole PC with it.
Sounds like a you problem
Weird, I had a couple crashes, but backing off my GPU overclock got rid of them. Been smooth sailing since.
My kid has had smooth sailing with their well below specs PC. Makes me wonder what specs they used to test the game.
Played for 3 hours yesterday on a 3070, 10700k, 32GB ram. Game runs and looks incredible on high/ultra settings. I haven’t gotten far into the story, but the beginning gets into the action very fast like Skyrim.
The animations and textures make npcs feel more alive than fallout. I made it to the first city area and it looks amazing. It looks like mirrors edge type city in space
What resolution? I’m just a tier below with a 3060Ti + 10600k and a tech review has me worried my 1440p monitor is gonna be a problem.
I don’t want another situation like downtown in Fallout 4 on my last rig where I’m trying to play a FPS with framerate dips all over the place.
1080p, I’ve been too scared to upgrade to a 1440p monitor on the current rig ):
I had those downtown F4 dips too, even at 1080. This game is far from that, it feels much more polished.
I can’t even play F76 to this day without super annoying frame dips
textures
What about the textures? Like, higher texture resolution?
Higher res and more details in the textures. Faces don’t look like they’re one flat texture with the npcs skin tone, for example.
The look of npcs, items, roads, rocks, hills, etc. is way better than even F4/F76.
Game isnt running the best on my 2070 super but I've also heard its not running great on peoples 3000/4000 series cards either. Gunplay is fun. I like the challenges to level up perks. Could I have waited the 5 days to play it and save myself 30 bucks? Yes. But its a long weekend so I'll take advantage of it. I also havent played a Bethesda game since Fallout 4 came out so I find myself getting lost in the game and I played 4 hours last night and it only felt like 1.
aetrix@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Bought it on steam. i7 3770K. GTX 1080. Pop_os. “Whatever, it will work!”
… anybody want to donate an Xbox series X?
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That CPU is a little long in the tooth
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Damn dude I thought my 4770 was old.
aetrix@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It has somehow been fine for everything I’ve thrown at it until now. But after a decade, “it’s time”
A new rig with an i5 13600K and 7900XT is on the way. I’m trying to remember what game finally forced my hand at a big time upgrade last time around.
tal@kbin.social 1 year ago
I saw some comment in this thread that on the Deck, someone had to set their Proton version for Starfield to Proton Experimental -- newer than the current stable release version -- and then it worked. Might try that on other Linux versions too.
IIRC it's in the Properties->Compatibility dialog for a given game.
https://www.protondb.com/app/1716740
Many entries on ProtonDB saying "switch to Experimental".
bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Works fine and selected Experimental as the default.
However vrr isn’t working on the latest Experimental so the monitor doesn’t slow down with the game.
avater@lemmy.world 1 year ago
haha!
just visited my parents and could negotiate with my little brother that the drives us home so we don’t have to take the train.
poor fellow thought starfield would also release on playstation 5 so I offered him my xbox series x as reward for the drive 😅
dutchkimble@lemy.lol 1 year ago
I’m guessing it won’t work on the steam deck then
freeman@lemmy.pub 1 year ago
I’m on an i7-1165g7 and 1070 on windows. 25-30 fps at 1080p.
It’s completely GPU bound. I have a 4060 ti 16 gb in the mail. We’ll see how it plays.