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• Berttheduck@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So you got to go on a short cruise where they returned you unharmed to your original destination.

  That’s definitely not human trafficking but the situation you put yourself in could have very very easily gone that way if the people on the boat wanted it to and you were lucky you came out of it unharmed and free.

  The things we do as teenagers eh.

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  • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Eh

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• neidu3@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Doesn’t sound like human trafficking. But it could easily have lead to it.

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  • intimesofpeace@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Flemmy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A nice looking yacht is still a stranger.

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• RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nah, more like prostitution. Y’all were providing something to them, like escorts. If you were of a legal age to do that it seems fine to me - dangerous sure (lucky you got the right crowd) but not trafficking, they didn’t trick you onto the boat or sell you.

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• Dragomus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The line of trafficking is crossed where the person is wholly dependant on the other, ie. they hold/control your passport/means of identification and finances plus are your only means of a roof over your head in an unknown area.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    so … why isn’t living with your parents as a teenager considered “human trafficking” then?

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    • macji@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because teenagers are dependants and the parents are responsible for their wellbeing. Since humans wish to and need to reproduce, society has ultimately decided (for better or worse) that the best way to protect everyone is to make children the responsibility of their parents until they are adults. The adults made the decision to have a child, and so that child is their responsibility until they child can be responsible for themselves.

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    • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because that would be silly.

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    • vvilld@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because society isn’t structured around proscriptive definitions. Just because you can craft a definition of human trafficking which sounds similar to a normal parent/child relationship doesn’t mean they’re the same thing.

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• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Were you forced to have sex with people you didn’t know?

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  • intimesofpeace@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They were counting on the implication

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• alehel@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unless you’ve left out anything, it doesn’t sound like human trafficking. Could def have ended badly though.

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• PopeyesBiscuit@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So u were 16 - 17? Wouldn’t say it’s trafficking but the dudes that “took” u on that boat definitely weren’t 100% following the law.

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  • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think that’s the case in France. Technically, there was consent from the parents. The age of consent is 15. What they did was morally questionable but not illegal.

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• zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m no expert in trafficking but I generally agree with you.

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• svc@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You coerced them with your body, commandeered their vessel, and took them with you as crew members. You absolutely committed human trafficking.

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• grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Take this with a grain of salt, but this is ICE’s (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) definition of human trafficking and is of course open to interpretation:

  “Human trafficking is a global crime that trades in people of all genders, ages and backgrounds and exploits them for profit. Human trafficking generally takes two forms: sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age; or the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage or slavery.”

  https://www.ice.gov/features/human-trafficking

  Interpol’s definition: “While there is a clear distinction between human trafficking and migrant smuggling, they can also be linked. Human trafficking occurs for specific purposes, such as sexual exploitation, labour exploitation, forced criminality, and organ removal, among other forms of exploitation. Migrant smugglers take advantage of people who want to leave their home countries to escape poverty, conflict, and crises, or simply want to seek a better life. Even if irregular migrants generally enter into the journey voluntarily, they are often exposed to significant risks, including that of being trafficked, kidnapped or dying in transit to their destinations.”

  https://www.interpol.int/en/Crimes/Human-trafficking-and-migrant-smuggling

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• lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think Monaco is a different country, but I’m not sure about Schengen at the time and how it works for ships. I vaguely remember the ships captain has to tell customs when they approach a harbor with foreigners and someone may come to check passports. If that was necessary at that time and they didn’t do it, but dock with you on board anyway, it was technically human trafficking, because they basically smuggled you in secretly.

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