i'd rather not use youtube than watch ads.
Coming to you soon...
Submitted 8 months ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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aeternum@kbin.social 8 months ago
eek2121@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thankfully that isn’t a choice you have to make, and thanks to open source, you will ever need to make.
The only trick Google has up their sleeve is their web integrity work. Even then, there will be workarounds.
Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I’m not sure if this works anymore but I saved this message a while back. If you get this pop-up then put this into your adblock custom rules and it should sort it out:
youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)
SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 8 months ago
You’re an angel. This is for ublock origin?
Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I believe it should work with any adblocker that lets you set custom rules but since adblocking still works for me I haven’t tried this myself. Saved it from reddit like 3 months ago so I hope it’s still relevant
Konlanx@feddit.de 8 months ago
I have been adblocking on YouTube for as long as I remember. Personally I think it’s unusable without an adblocker. What’s the alternative? Because I am not suddenly going to pay for a platform that keeps getting worse all the time.
Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
When ever I see someone using YouTube without an adblocker it looks like some cheap chinese knock-off or something. As someone who sees less ads than 99% of people I’ve genuinely became a bit oversensitive to them. Podcasts are the only thing I keep paying attention to despite them having ads which even then I always skip over. Other than that every online platform I use is ad-free and I don’t watch TV or listen to radio either.
Konlanx@feddit.de 8 months ago
I like to listen to podcasts in the gym and I will interrupt my set to skip sponsors and ads. The enshittification on Spotify is particularly bad as they now play ads in addition to sponsorings for premium listeners.
dept@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
bilibili, an actual chinese knockoff has less ads
somedaysoon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Same for me, I wish there was something like sponsorblock for podcasts.
SamboT@lemm.ee 8 months ago
There is peertube. I’m not familiar with its limitations. Technically it is possible for someone to try and track your activity because it’s P2P.
The content is currently lacming lacking. I’m kind of wondering what limitations are in place for each user to upload video. Can someone make a bot to start reuploading content from their favorite streamers?
jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Is “allowlist” the new word for whitelist?
TheEntity@kbin.social 8 months ago
Not really new, it's been around for about a decade. Otherwise: yes.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Some people mistakenly think that the “black” in “blacklist” is a reference to skin color, so they demand it to be changed.
Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“Excuse me, it’s ‘list of color’.”
Kuro@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It will be yet another endless cat and mouse game
There are smart people out there that will always find ways around this
Trihilis@feddit.nl 8 months ago
At this point I feel like Google wants to Intentionally kill off YouTube so they don’t have to bear the cost anymore. Just another one for the Google graveyard.
anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I would love to know what the benefit is. I would think that a very minimal amount of users use adblockers. Maybe I’m wrong but their investment into these things must be substantial.
Kuro@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The answer is always money
How much money? Yes
Dmian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t need no stinky ad blocker! With a custom user stylesheet is enough…, that is, if you’re using something other than Chrome, because Chrome removed user stylesheets for “reasons”.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Reasons of adware
amio@kbin.social 8 months ago
Reasons: "we don't like it when you try to slightly moderate our torrents of spam"
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’ll fucking use Vimeo if I have to.
Charliebeans@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Seems like it’s controlled test in different countries and segments. I (Europe) get this popup in Firefox, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.
yata@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Also Europe here, using ublock and firefox, and I don’t get that popup.
toastus@feddit.de 8 months ago
Dies your PiHole block Youtube ads?
Manzas@lemdro.id 8 months ago
It doesn’t because it can’t the ads and videos are on the same domain now
Charliebeans@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
It does not. It can only block domains. Youtube ads use same domain as actual videos.
CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Id rather die than to use the internet without protective services.
jet@hackertalks.com 8 months ago
As long as we have the physical capability of pointing a camera at a display, people will control what they see. Worst case scenario in these browser wars, you run Chrome on a Google certified device then stream the output of that device to the computer you’re actually using, using various filters and vision recognition removing the advertisement from your video stream.
This is extreme, it’s a little crazy, but I think everyone can agree it’s technically feasible. This means we will always have the edge in the browser wars. If we control the display, we control the flow.
Everything else is just an optimization
penguin@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It’s fundamentally impossible to grant read access without copy. And you can always do whatever you want to your copy.
Otherwise, piracy wouldn’t be a thing.
jet@hackertalks.com 8 months ago
Im skipping a few steps. Down then road when they have WEI or something like it, they will only show videos in a secure environment… i.e. where the entire hardware chain has key attestation it hasn’t been modified. In that dark future, we can still do everything through optics.
I agree with you, if they send you data, no matter how its wrapped, its your data to do with as you wish.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 months ago
At some point in the chain it has to be uncompressed, and even though they have teams at Google try to get that down to the last step, someone is always going to figure out how to step in between and grab that stream
ultratiem@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I ain’t doing all that for a video. Better option would be to ditch YT or get governments and regulators to step in and put a stop to this predator nonsense.
Sorry tech companies, you have no right to control such things. I’ll be damned if a company can tell me what application I can and cannot use. Let alone what browser I can ingest the internet with.
This is no different than the browser wars of 2000.
AsRedAsMonkeysAss@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is NewPipe app users safe
gamey@feddit.rocks 8 months ago
If Google doesn’t find a way to end it, they continue to break third party frontends in waves but the community will certainly fight them as long as possible so I doubt that it’s going to happen soon, Nitter is back online too and Libreddit is on it’s way to be so it’s not that easy!
KrisND@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been using it for awhile and love it! Highly recommended!
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
What country are you in? I wonder if they’re rolling it out to smaller markets to see how much backlash they get.
Time to get a federated video hosting service scaled up ASAP I guess. But who could afford the bandwidth? We need a stable torrent-based streaming solution I suppose.
eek2121@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It really isn’t. I can get a gigabit pipe and all the storage i can cram into a 4U for a few hundred a month. That is enough to serve several dozen users. Add on a CDN and now you can serve thousands or more.
The bigger issue is copyright. A site that gains traction in the video space by ripping youtube videos would get sued into oblivion.
Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I never got this pop up (i use Firefox + Ublock)
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
It’s not fully rolled out yet.
striderk@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Doesn’t that mean Firefox + Ublock Origin is blocked too?
TCB13@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Have you notice that lately if you’re the history feature disabled it will refuse to show suggested videos? In the past you would still get suggested videos even with the view history disabled.
venoft@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Same with google maps. With no ‘web and search history’ enabled the local searches I did on my local device won’t be remembered. So every time you’d need to fill in the entire address. That’s just bullying you into accepting their tracking.
TCB13@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes, makes me remember when they wouldn’t allow you to save locations on the map without logging in.
dingus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How would it be suggesting videos for you if it didn’t know what you were warching? It probably still recorded your history then even if you requested that it didn’t.
TCB13@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes but they did it in the past. So… they actually always knew / recorded your history.
mbi@kbin.social 8 months ago
Is this real? The post title seems to imply it's something that might happen in the future?
aeternum@kbin.social 8 months ago
look into Web Environment Integrity. This particular screenshot is probably fake, but it's coming very soon.
Bjaldr@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
No, the screenshot is real, they’ve been testing it in selected regions for a little bit
SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
This has nothing to do with WEI. Google can do more than one shitty thing at once you know.
jon@lemmy.tf 8 months ago
Looks like I’m about to switch fully to YT-DL/Plex for the subscriptions I care about. Should be good until they start embedding ads into the video files anyway.
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Invidious / piped.video is the way (as long as it continues to work)!
radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Can you filter pick it out? Like using the eye dropper thingy?
Silviecat44@aussie.zone 8 months ago
You probably pay spotify premium
papabobolious@feddit.nu 8 months ago
Using ublock to block these notifications is a great feeling
Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Enjoy it then because ublock does nothing against this at the moment. If you don’t have it it’s because you’re not in the first waves.
dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why does this sound like a threat
ch4rlie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
chuckles in Firefox
Charliebeans@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Firefox is not immune to this. I get this popup in FF as well, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.
ch4rlie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oop. Chortles in revanced
dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Well they can block Deez nutz
HikuNoir@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Personally I’ve never had a problem. However Newpipe seems borked of late, is it related?
Tuss@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I used NewPipe only yesterday with no problem.
phi1997@kbin.social 8 months ago
If you installed it through Fdroid and you aren't using Newpipe'sown repository, you're probably using an outdated version
HikuNoir@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It was. I got the github version and it’s working now.
jet@hackertalks.com 8 months ago
There was a recent update to new pipe, make sure you’re running the latest code
Ninth3891@kbin.social 8 months ago
Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 8 months ago
I just tried it now and it works fine. Tried a video posted 2 weeks ago and a video posted 5 hours ago. Both played just fine 🤷🏻♀️
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 months ago
[deleted]Evirisu@kbin.social 8 months ago
Even if the experience is fantastic, I don't like when a company tries to force me to buy premium, so if it's the only way I'll search for another platform
CapnMoisesBKind@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Oh that’s sad.
WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 8 months ago
The enshittification continues until profits increase!
(Btw I still haven’t seen those yet. In USA and I’m using uBlock Origin on Firefox)
edoorklep@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Got it in the Netherlands a few days ago. With ublock origin on Firefox. So I switched to freetube with the subscriptions I actually watch.
jet@hackertalks.com 8 months ago
I’ve been using free too but lately it’s been running pretty poorly. Which insidious instance do you use?
nicetriangle@kbin.social 8 months ago
I am also in the Netherlands using uBlock Origin and Firefox and am not getting it. So my best guess is they're doing A/B testing and people are being randomly selected to see how they'll respond to something like this.
TheInsane42@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Haven’t seen it here yet, same country, Vivaldi and uBlock.
Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Browser and plugins don’t matter, this is being rolled out in waves. People are getting this on all browsers, with or without ad blockers
WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 8 months ago
So this is how the internet dies? With ads, paywalls, and DRMs?
🥲
jungekatz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Same , but not in the USA , I havent seen them yet