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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fne8w2ah@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The enshittification continues until profits increase!

    (Btw I still haven’t seen those yet. In USA and I’m using uBlock Origin on Firefox)

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    • edoorklep@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Got it in the Netherlands a few days ago. With ublock origin on Firefox. So I switched to freetube with the subscriptions I actually watch.

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      • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve been using free too but lately it’s been running pretty poorly. Which insidious instance do you use?

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      • nicetriangle@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I am also in the Netherlands using uBlock Origin and Firefox and am not getting it. So my best guess is they're doing A/B testing and people are being randomly selected to see how they'll respond to something like this.

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      • TheInsane42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Haven’t seen it here yet, same country, Vivaldi and uBlock.

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    • Draghetta@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Browser and plugins don’t matter, this is being rolled out in waves. People are getting this on all browsers, with or without ad blockers

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      • WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So this is how the internet dies? With ads, paywalls, and DRMs?

        🥲

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    • jungekatz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same , but not in the USA , I havent seen them yet

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  • aeternum@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i'd rather not use youtube than watch ads.

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    • eek2121@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thankfully that isn’t a choice you have to make, and thanks to open source, you will ever need to make.

      The only trick Google has up their sleeve is their web integrity work. Even then, there will be workarounds.

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  • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m not sure if this works anymore but I saved this message a while back. If you get this pop-up then put this into your adblock custom rules and it should sort it out:

    youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)

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    • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re an angel. This is for ublock origin?

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      • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I believe it should work with any adblocker that lets you set custom rules but since adblocking still works for me I haven’t tried this myself. Saved it from reddit like 3 months ago so I hope it’s still relevant

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  • Konlanx@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have been adblocking on YouTube for as long as I remember. Personally I think it’s unusable without an adblocker. What’s the alternative? Because I am not suddenly going to pay for a platform that keeps getting worse all the time.

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    • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When ever I see someone using YouTube without an adblocker it looks like some cheap chinese knock-off or something. As someone who sees less ads than 99% of people I’ve genuinely became a bit oversensitive to them. Podcasts are the only thing I keep paying attention to despite them having ads which even then I always skip over. Other than that every online platform I use is ad-free and I don’t watch TV or listen to radio either.

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      • Konlanx@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I like to listen to podcasts in the gym and I will interrupt my set to skip sponsors and ads. The enshittification on Spotify is particularly bad as they now play ads in addition to sponsorings for premium listeners.

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      • dept@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        bilibili, an actual chinese knockoff has less ads

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      • somedaysoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Same for me, I wish there was something like sponsorblock for podcasts.

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    • SamboT@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There is peertube. I’m not familiar with its limitations. Technically it is possible for someone to try and track your activity because it’s P2P.

      The content is currently lacming lacking. I’m kind of wondering what limitations are in place for each user to upload video. Can someone make a bot to start reuploading content from their favorite streamers?

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  • jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is “allowlist” the new word for whitelist?

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    • TheEntity@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not really new, it's been around for about a decade. Otherwise: yes.

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    • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some people mistakenly think that the “black” in “blacklist” is a reference to skin color, so they demand it to be changed.

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      • Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “Excuse me, it’s ‘list of color’.”

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  • Kuro@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It will be yet another endless cat and mouse game

    There are smart people out there that will always find ways around this

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    • Trihilis@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      At this point I feel like Google wants to Intentionally kill off YouTube so they don’t have to bear the cost anymore. Just another one for the Google graveyard.

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    • anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would love to know what the benefit is. I would think that a very minimal amount of users use adblockers. Maybe I’m wrong but their investment into these things must be substantial.

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      • Kuro@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The answer is always money

        How much money? Yes

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  • Dmian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t need no stinky ad blocker! With a custom user stylesheet is enough…, that is, if you’re using something other than Chrome, because Chrome removed user stylesheets for “reasons”.

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    • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Reasons of adware

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    • amio@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Reasons: "we don't like it when you try to slightly moderate our torrents of spam"

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  • fsxylo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll fucking use Vimeo if I have to.

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  • Charliebeans@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seems like it’s controlled test in different countries and segments. I (Europe) get this popup in Firefox, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.

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    • yata@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also Europe here, using ublock and firefox, and I don’t get that popup.

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    • toastus@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dies your PiHole block Youtube ads?

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      • Manzas@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It doesn’t because it can’t the ads and videos are on the same domain now

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      • Charliebeans@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It does not. It can only block domains. Youtube ads use same domain as actual videos.

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  • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Id rather die than to use the internet without protective services.

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  • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As long as we have the physical capability of pointing a camera at a display, people will control what they see. Worst case scenario in these browser wars, you run Chrome on a Google certified device then stream the output of that device to the computer you’re actually using, using various filters and vision recognition removing the advertisement from your video stream.

    This is extreme, it’s a little crazy, but I think everyone can agree it’s technically feasible. This means we will always have the edge in the browser wars. If we control the display, we control the flow.

    Everything else is just an optimization

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    • penguin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s fundamentally impossible to grant read access without copy. And you can always do whatever you want to your copy.

      Otherwise, piracy wouldn’t be a thing.

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      • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Im skipping a few steps. Down then road when they have WEI or something like it, they will only show videos in a secure environment… i.e. where the entire hardware chain has key attestation it hasn’t been modified. In that dark future, we can still do everything through optics.

        I agree with you, if they send you data, no matter how its wrapped, its your data to do with as you wish.

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      • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        At some point in the chain it has to be uncompressed, and even though they have teams at Google try to get that down to the last step, someone is always going to figure out how to step in between and grab that stream

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    • ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I ain’t doing all that for a video. Better option would be to ditch YT or get governments and regulators to step in and put a stop to this predator nonsense.

      Sorry tech companies, you have no right to control such things. I’ll be damned if a company can tell me what application I can and cannot use. Let alone what browser I can ingest the internet with.

      This is no different than the browser wars of 2000.

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  • AsRedAsMonkeysAss@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is NewPipe app users safe

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    • gamey@feddit.rocks ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If Google doesn’t find a way to end it, they continue to break third party frontends in waves but the community will certainly fight them as long as possible so I doubt that it’s going to happen soon, Nitter is back online too and Libreddit is on it’s way to be so it’s not that easy!

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    • KrisND@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve been using it for awhile and love it! Highly recommended!

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  • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What country are you in? I wonder if they’re rolling it out to smaller markets to see how much backlash they get.

    Time to get a federated video hosting service scaled up ASAP I guess. But who could afford the bandwidth? We need a stable torrent-based streaming solution I suppose.

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    • eek2121@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It really isn’t. I can get a gigabit pipe and all the storage i can cram into a 4U for a few hundred a month. That is enough to serve several dozen users. Add on a CDN and now you can serve thousands or more.

      The bigger issue is copyright. A site that gains traction in the video space by ripping youtube videos would get sued into oblivion.

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  • Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I never got this pop up (i use Firefox + Ublock)

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    • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not fully rolled out yet.

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      • striderk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Doesn’t that mean Firefox + Ublock Origin is blocked too?

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  • TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Have you notice that lately if you’re the history feature disabled it will refuse to show suggested videos? In the past you would still get suggested videos even with the view history disabled.

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    • venoft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same with google maps. With no ‘web and search history’ enabled the local searches I did on my local device won’t be remembered. So every time you’d need to fill in the entire address. That’s just bullying you into accepting their tracking.

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      • TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, makes me remember when they wouldn’t allow you to save locations on the map without logging in.

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    • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How would it be suggesting videos for you if it didn’t know what you were warching? It probably still recorded your history then even if you requested that it didn’t.

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      • TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes but they did it in the past. So… they actually always knew / recorded your history.

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  • mbi@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is this real? The post title seems to imply it's something that might happen in the future?

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    • aeternum@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      look into Web Environment Integrity. This particular screenshot is probably fake, but it's coming very soon.

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      • Bjaldr@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No, the screenshot is real, they’ve been testing it in selected regions for a little bit

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      • SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This has nothing to do with WEI. Google can do more than one shitty thing at once you know.

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  • jon@lemmy.tf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Looks like I’m about to switch fully to YT-DL/Plex for the subscriptions I care about. Should be good until they start embedding ads into the video files anyway.

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  • TheProtagonist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Invidious / piped.video is the way (as long as it continues to work)!

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  • radioactiveradio@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can you filter pick it out? Like using the eye dropper thingy?

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  • Silviecat44@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You probably pay spotify premium

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  • papabobolious@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Using ublock to block these notifications is a great feeling

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    • Draghetta@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Enjoy it then because ublock does nothing against this at the moment. If you don’t have it it’s because you’re not in the first waves.

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      • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why does this sound like a threat

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  • ch4rlie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    chuckles in Firefox

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    • Charliebeans@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Firefox is not immune to this. I get this popup in FF as well, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.

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      • ch4rlie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oop. Chortles in revanced

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  • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well they can block Deez nutz

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  • HikuNoir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Personally I’ve never had a problem. However Newpipe seems borked of late, is it related?

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    • Tuss@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I used NewPipe only yesterday with no problem.

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    • phi1997@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you installed it through Fdroid and you aren't using Newpipe'sown repository, you're probably using an outdated version

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      • HikuNoir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It was. I got the github version and it’s working now.

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    • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There was a recent update to new pipe, make sure you’re running the latest code

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    • Ninth3891@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @HikuNoir Newpipe has been reported to be blocked by google.

      @fne8w2ah

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      • Thorned_Rose@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I just tried it now and it works fine. Tried a video posted 2 weeks ago and a video posted 5 hours ago. Both played just fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

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  • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • Evirisu@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even if the experience is fantastic, I don't like when a company tries to force me to buy premium, so if it's the only way I'll search for another platform

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  • CapnMoisesBKind@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh that’s sad.

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