I wish they would irradiate it instead of boiling. Irradiation is completely safe and preserves the nutritional benefits. But the raw milk people are generally opposed to that, and irradiation has a PR problem. Sadness.
ugh i wish
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nroth@lemmy.world 5 months ago
BreadOven@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Pasteurization doesn’t boil the milk though…
barsoap@lemm.ee 5 months ago
UHT does, 140C for 2-5 seconds. Shelf-stable without refrigeration for up to nine months unless you open it.
Frankly speaking the difference between milk from cows with good diet vs. from cows fed protein slop is greater than between the modes of processing.
Still have PTSD from my mother feeding me raw milk – unlike in the US it’s legal here, also heavily regulated so it wasn’t a health risk microbiology-wise but boy am I sensitive to even slight off-tastes in milk because yes you’re going to interrupt the cooling chain and no that fridge doesn’t have 8C. Unless you’re a cheesemaker or such and it’s necessary for the process, stay away from raw.
And, no, it doesn’t have health benefits. Maybe if your kid doesn’t play outside in the mud and the milk is the only source of germs they’re exposed to, then it may help them to not develop autoimmune disorders. Be sane, choose mud over milk.
auzy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What nutritional benefits does it preserve exactly?
JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 months ago
Does it taste different? Of raw milk tastes different than pasteurized milk than radiated milk might taste different too.
WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I also imagine on the company side it’s probably more expensive to do that rather than just making it hot enough.
bluewing@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I grew up on a dairy farm and we drank raw milk every day. I can remember my sisters bringing the milk pitcher to the barn and dipping into the bulk tank of raw milk every morning or so. No one got sick and no one died. We even made butter at home from it after separating the cream. But pasteurization is a good thing for all you urbane urbanites out there. It increases the shelf life and safety for consumption. Plus it reduces number of small dairies near population centers that used to exist. Dairies can be 100+ miles away now. After all, you wouldn’t want to be exposed to the smell of cow shit right?
Raw milk does taste very different from store bought pasteurized milk, (whole milk ain’t whole). And like shelf stable milk, I doubt anyone of you would like drinking it.
Zomg@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Those are also cows you personally owned and cared for. You knew their health, you knew their living conditions, and the milk wasn’t produced soley (or maybe at all) big corporate profits where production is the goal, and the animals well-being isn’t.
bluewing@lemm.ee 5 months ago
You do understand that ALL dairy farms that sell milk are regularly tested for safety of the milk they sell. This is federally mandated. You miss the thresholds for bacteria counts, you will be dumping all your milk produced until it tests clean again. So those cows can’t be held in very dirty and vile conditions because your milk won’t pass those mandated tests. Slackers go broke and are out of business in short order.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for selling pasteurized milk in stores. The milk you buy in the store can be a week old before you see it on the shelf. But the unreasoning fear of raw milk is just plain ridiculous.
asdfbla@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
When I was a kid, we went to our neighbor who was a small milk farmer and got raw milk basically every day. Never got sick or anything.
Can confirm that raw milk does taste different, and to be honest sometimes I miss the taste when I drink pasteurized milk now
bluewing@lemm.ee 5 months ago
While I certainly don’t miss milking cows, I too miss the insanely rich texture and flavor of that fresh from the cow milk.
enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 months ago
PASTEURIZATION IS A GOOD THING
LOL… the downvoting. I think as usual people read the first sentence and that’s it. So you saying “pasteurization is a good thing” got lost.
PASTEURIZATION IS A GOOD THING
But totally agree - raw milk, in the right situation and handled appropriately, which means COWS YOU KNOW is just so much better. To the point where after our one neighbor we’d get it from moved away I just stopped drinking milk at all.
PASTEURIZATION IS A GOOD THING
frank@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And I’m and American in Colombia where they pasteurize the milk to the point where it is stored at room temperature.
IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
UHT milk tastes disgusting though. Not sure if it’s the additives here in the UK.
Pasteurization is a wonderful thing however.
linux2647@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
Might get some hate here for this, but I’ve tried this company’s cheese. It’s the best cheddar cheese I’ve ever tasted.
Hawke@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Why would you get hate for that? Just because a company that sells cheese also sells raw milk when they probably shouldn’t?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Nah, the owners of the company are batshit
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Raw milk does usually make better cheese, sadly.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Raw milk now getting “Bird Flued on Date”
Crumbgrabber@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Fortune favors the bold. Hand me a glass at random.
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
And Trump isn’t even President yet. But I’m sure this is his fault, or Kennedy’s.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
It’s not that they caused it, it’s that they’re putting this forward as a healthier and better alternative to pasteurized milk, which leads to the connection with the news.
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Well Fresno, CA is Republican, so you’re probably right, some kind of evil R plot to kill people.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Raw milk is one of the things RFK specifically promises to promote.
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
It looks like it’s State laws that govern whether raw milk sales is legal or not. In Colorado, Arkansas, Alabama, DC, Delaware, and many others it’s completely illegal.
What does the federal government have to do with it? It’s already illegal to transport it across state lines according to federal law.
bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They really should start selling it and marketing it as never frozen fresh. It’ll be even more effective that way once its legal nationwide.
twinnie@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Tbf, raw milk is delicious.
cm0002@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Lol there’s no difference
YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 5 months ago
One does come with a bunch of potentially dangerous microbes
gazter@aussie.zone 5 months ago
Of course there’s a difference. That’s like saying there’s no difference between a rare steak and a well done steak. Yes, they’re both steak, and to some extent they taste the same, but they are very different.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
So is chicken sashimi.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And pork sashimi.
arin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Only in Japan tho
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Lol, that’s actually not fair.
ARk@lemm.ee 5 months ago
brain parasites: yes… YEEEESS…
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Compared to UHT milk or refrigeration required milk?
enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Uh oh you violated the cardinal rule of Lemmy and posted an opinion at odds with the intent of the OP.
I agree raw milk is delicious. Too bad most people cannot experience that safely.
Moo moo! Moo!