cross-posted from: lemm.ee/post/48220869
As a Vita fan, FUCK YOU Sony!
Sony Working on Handheld Console for PS5 Games to Rival Switch [Bloomberg]
Submitted 1 month ago by Rekall_Incorporated@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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pastel_de_airfryer@lemmy.eco.br 1 month ago
slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I am in a similar boat. And it isn’t just Vita, they did same with PS VR and PS VR 2.
If it isn’t their main home console, Sony can’t be trusted to support it with their first party titles.
Going to wait for actual announcement and details to make up my mind about this, but don’t care about it in general, and I doubt there is much they can say about it that would make me buy it on day 1.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The only reason I’m considering a PSVR2 right now is the option to connect it to PC. But it’s apparently not the best experience, and needs a dedicated adapter.
llii@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Anything that isn’t a instant success gets dropped by sony faster than a hot potato. See: PS Vita, PSVR2.
callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Fuck Sony. It’ll be garbage and they’ll do something moronic eith itnlike most of their decision making the last 15 years.
overload@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Hopefully we don’t have a PSVR2 situation.
Sony does have the best controller haptic system and that in a handheld could be great. I think that if the push into handhelds by Sony/Xbox to try and compete with Nintendo and the steam deck causes some smaller scale and fun games to be released, that would be a positive for the industry.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think if they wanna push the haptics in a handheld format they need to figure something out about the terrible battery life first
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Heck, I bought mine after all the death bells, and still enjoyed all the old exclusives plus the new indie titles coming out.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 month ago
Oh yeah they could call it something like a portable PlayStation, a PPS?
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I honestly don’t know how this is supposed to succeed unless it’s literally a handheld PS4, and even then, the market for that over a Steam Deck is likely minuscule.
slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Even if it’s a handheld PS4, if it can’t play any latest PS5 games, then Sony would need to support it with games made specifically for it, and I don’t think they give enough output to support two systems.
Steam Deck is supported by the huge steam library, so difficult to compete with it without good first party support.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If a game is low spec enough to run on a PS4, it typically has a PS4 version as far as I can tell, but maybe there are exceptions I haven’t kept up with. And in order to have a handheld PlayStation that doesn’t require its own versions of games like the Vita and PSP did in the past, the best they can really hope for is a PS4. That’s why this problem seems insurmountable unless they go the PC route like everyone else.
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Steam Deck User base: “This shit doesn’t play Duke 3D” toss
Sony don’t get that the entire reason I like my Deck is that it’s a swiss-army-knife for gaming.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean, you’re not everyone. I like my Deck, but emulation is generally too janky, unwieldy, and exposes bad old game design for me.
Harrk@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Remember when they tried that last time?
Look, I actually liked the Vita but only after I got one second hand after putting it off for years. The overpriced memory cards didn’t exactly advertise the device well.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Within a few years the handheld market will mainly be between Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2. Competitors have to step up their game if they want to compete with these guys.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I imagine Steam might have a power/messaging problem if they make a successor to the Deck. “Does this run” becomes more confusing.
Thaurin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Eh. Steam Deck will have to up its game significantly if it wants to be in the same ballpark as Switch. It’s a little baby compared to Switch sakes, not even close.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t agree. The Steam Deck is a big hit, especially considering it’s Valves first handheld. The Steam Deck 2 will become a huge success. Mark my words.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What is interesting is that streaming gaming has not filled this market space and on device processing is still more favorable. If you think about it the ps5 streaming controller thing is already a portable ps5, they just have to move the processing to their servers. If anything, this tells us streaming is just not there yet for the vast majority and portable consoles will continue to do their own processing for the foreseeable future.
nave@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
The portal can’t stream from the cloud. It’s only able to remote play from your ps5 so it’s closer to a wireless display with a controller attached.
slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They have just released a beta of streaming directly from cloud. Don’t know if there are any limitations, but if everything goes well, it may release officially in a few months.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Is it going to use physical media? If not, I don’t give a fuck. Nintendo, despite all the other shit they do are committed to physical media for the foreseeable future. I believe the Switch 2 will be my last console as I doubt the PS6 will have a disc drive.
Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
the vita?
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yeah, that will totally save them. Who asked for a PS handheld?
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
My PS5 already spins its fans up loud enough to drown out the TV from clear across the room, so if they expect to create a device that runs PS5 games at comparable quality and also make it handheld, I don’t foresee this device actually being usable. The fans will be louder than any speakers they’ll want to fit in there and the thing will be the size and shape of a cinderblock.
I could be wrong, and I have been before, but if I am this time I’ll be pretty surprised.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Have you tried cleaning the fans? They aren’t difficult to access.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It’s less than six months old and has its own dedicated shelf… I did think to check that, but no, it came right out of the box being this loud.
Now that I think about it though, I haven’t seen any other PS5s in person to compare, so for all I know I just have a bad unit.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
yeaaaa no thanks. They are about 2 or 3 generations too late for that. After what they have tried to pull with the ps5, plus the price point and the fact that it would be a worse more restricted system than the steam deck. I’ll keep my deck where I get an overall better experience + no monthly sub fee.
Mwa@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Another freebsd unix wannabe console 😴
cccrontab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The PS5 is my last console. I’m done.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 month ago
Cool, but I can’t afford a newer graphics card now since they cost over $2k and a console is only $700 and can do 4k 60fps with ray tracing.
Nutteman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Its 600 dollars for a 4070… and a 4070 is overkill to compete with the ps5
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
Make some games worth playing first
Viri4thus@feddit.org 1 month ago
Watch them enforce a proprietary storage device that is extremely overpriced sending the whole thing spiraling down into oblivion. Fingers crossed I’m wrong.
rubikcuber@feddit.uk 1 month ago
And it will require a proprietary dock to plug it into a TV, but they’ll only produce something like 5% the amount of docks as consoles.
ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 1 month ago
Hopefully, it will become a new incredible emulation platform when jailbroken, as the other two.
Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 1 month ago
for that it would have to be priced somewhere in the ball park of the steam deck and offer more compute power than that. i don’t see this from sony, i expect either a very expensive device marketed as as “premium” handheld or an iteration on their PlayStation Portal(?) streaming handheld.
Xanvial@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Proprietary storage is Microsoft things now. Xbox series needs specific ssd to expand the storage, while PS5 can use any SSD that has enough speed
Viri4thus@feddit.org 1 month ago
It was a callback to the Vita (I have one) era with the stupidly priced proprietary expansion cards. I got a 16GB one, had to sell a kidney to get it.