As an OG Reddit Sync user of over 10 years, all this arguing really brings a tear to my eye. 🥲

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• y2cwr2005@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As a software engineer I find it miraculous the amount of people that whine about somebody wanting to get paid for putting weeks, months, and years of their life into a product 100s of thousands of people CHOOSE to use.

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  • stillwater@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So many FOSS evangelists sound more like “What do you mean making a website costs more than $20?” types than they realize.

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  • Serpent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Have been using the Reddit app daily for years after paying a couple of quid to remove ads whenever I did that. Felt like a steal then and expensive now so, on balance, I’m comfortable having paid the ad randsome. I feel better knowing it all goes to the developer for his personal efforts.

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  • JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think it’s time to create a lemmy version of r/subredditdrama!!!

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    • V4uban@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      !lemmydrama@lemmy.world

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  • regular_human@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And it’s a very high quality app, to boot. I’ve been a mobile software engineer for more than a decade and this level of polish doesn’t just happen by accident

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  • fidodo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same. I’m very grateful for the FOSS options, they’re like a public option. They create a baseline that paid apps have to surpass, but there’s nothing wrong with devs getting paid for their work and that payment shouldn’t have to be at the whims of donations. I view it as more choice and more choice is good. This is a small dev on an open platform that can’t lock out FOSS options. It’s not a mega corp building a monopoly. Sync is not hurting anyone by being a paid option.

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    • urkindagood@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not a mega corp building a monopoly. Sync is not hurting anyone by being a paid option.

      Wouldn’t they see this as a dev trying to make some fortune over non-profit service?

      Not sure though if the dev already automatically donates a portion of his sells to lemmy.

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  • codemaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Paying is fine, it’s the SHIT TON OF THIRD PARTY TRACKERS they put in the app that worry me

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    • Rossel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They get completely disabled if you pay, that’s the point. I haven’t got a single tracking ping on my PiHole, I payed for adfree.

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    • okiokbar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let me get this right - you’re worried about tracking it use an Android phone?

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  • BrooklynRage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The way i look at is if you give me a good app(sync) with good functionality and a nice ui I don’t mind seeing ad’s or throwing some money the devs way.

    My big issue with the reddit app was there was no equivalent exchange going on i had a shitty app with awful ui that was buggy slow showed me adds and tracked my data I didn’t get anything from that so I had to stop.

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• electriccars@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My reply to all the naysayers:

  Thanks for making Lemmy feel like home, it wouldn’t without you!

  The reality is it’s a free world, regardless of what morality you put on things there are going to be things that happen that you don’t like. That’s life.

  Like it or not Lemmy has had explosive growth because of apps like Sync. Because of them being killed off by Reddit. If it weren’t for the drama of Reddit doing that, I and millions of other users wouldn’t be here right now as we’d still be on Reddit.

  Even people who weren’t using the 3rd party apps left Reddit because Reddit’s actions left a bad taste in their mouths.

  So, morality of one guy charging for his honest work in creating the paid or ad supported app aside, you should be thanking the apps including sync for helping drive so many users to Lemmy.

  If you yourself don’t want to use a paid app, then that’s okay! We’re all allowed to respond or react to things how we want, but being incredibly divisive for something that a lot of people wanted and that really is inconsequential is almost universally frowned on.

  Just let people do what they want and don’t shoot them down for it. More options for browsing Lemmy = more Lemmings = more content.

  Much love my dudes! We may disagree on this but we agree on many many many more things I’m sure, just because we’re on Lemmy instead of Reddit in the first place is proof of that! ✌️

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  • victron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well put. Also, I hope this whole topic dies soon.

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    • electriccars@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Me too. I can’t wait for the next subject of Lemmy drama! It makes me feel alive! 😂

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• C3D@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People care too much about which app you use. At the end of the day, as long as you’re happy with sync it shouldn’t matter

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  • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I agree, just wish they would stop mentioning how their app is “just so great and only $20 to get no ads” in every single thread and every other post on every instance

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    • Klystron@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My comment to that is in every single thread and every other post on every other instance someone is saying how sync is ad filled and tracker heavy. So let’s just all agree to never talk about apps, ever.

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    • electriccars@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh man, Sync is just so great and only $20 to get no ads you should give it a try!

      Play store link: Sync for Lemmy

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    • TheIceKaguyaCometh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are “they” in the room with us right now?

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    • MrGerrit@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But that’s more in response to people saying it cost over 100$ to remove ads and it has trackers.

      The ultra life time cost 100$, it stops the ads and also comes with some extra features that isn’t needed to enjoy sync.

      For 20$ the ads will stop and the trackers will be disabled.

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    • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The only comments I personally see are complaining about the price. Most people just use it. I subscribed instantly and knew I would before the price was revealed. I’m only saying it because it’s on topic now, but tend not to get into the discussion because in the end it’s up to the individual whether or not the cost makes the app worth using.

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  • whataboutshutup@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unless it should? And we shall bully them? They should feel unneeded there?

    They put ads and ask for cash while showing other people’s free resources they put their mind to create? While no other client do so? And plenty of people\bots enable them? And call that a pointless argument on fediverse? Lmao.

    Their spines should be broken asap, and everything around Lemmy should stay free or donation-based. If it is not, next you see are paywalled apps and instances. No one would benefit from a trend of purchaseable clients but these devs, while they don’t bring content, or anything to the table. Their app is useless without others’ work, and yet they charge you 20-100 bucks for being a middleman between you and it. It’s senseless.

    Fuck sync devs. Fuck sync shills. Fuck them all.

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    • moriquende@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They bring something to the table: the app. It’s a lot of work to build an app, and takes a lot of time and knowledge. It’s perfectly okay to monetize your work. If you don’t like it, why not build one yourself? The servers are there, and they are free. So is the documentation, and the protocols.

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    • electriccars@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for making Lemmy feel like home, it wouldn’t without you!

      The reality is it’s a free world, regardless of what morality you put on things there are going to be things that happen that you don’t like. That’s life.

      Like it or not Lemmy has had explosive growth because of apps like Sync. Because of them being killed off by Reddit. If it weren’t for the drama of Reddit doing that, I and millions of other users wouldn’t be here right now as we’d still be on Reddit.

      Even people who weren’t using the 3rd party apps left Reddit because Reddit’s actions left a bad taste in their mouths.

      So, morality of one guy charging for his honest work in creating the paid or ad supported app aside, you should be thanking the apps including sync for helping drive so many users to Lemmy.

      If you yourself don’t want to use a paid app, then that’s okay! We’re all allowed to respond or react to things how we want, but being incredibly divisive for something that a lot of people wanted and that really is inconsequential is almost universally frowned on.

      Just let people do what they want and don’t shoot them down for it. More options for browsing Lemmy = more Lemmings = more content.

      Much love my dude! We may disagree on this but we agree on many many many more things I’m sure, just because we’re on Lemmy instead of Reddit in the first place is proof of that! ✌️

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    • CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are you OK?

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• Thedogspaw@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Remember folks whether you choose to use sync or another lemmy app none of us are using reddits shitty mobile app and in that way we are all winners

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  • Absolute_Axoltl@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This to me is the most salient point. I think this initial noise will fade away once the various options are all available.

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    • Thedogspaw@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It will nevwr complete go away because people love to be tribal but it will probably settle into puticular communities where people can talk about the different lemmy apps

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  • RaulitoElLobito@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m on both so there’s that and I ain’t rebuying sync when all he literally did was a copy and paste job.

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    • ItsTheOnlyWayICanCum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are you stupid? The backend is completely different and there are many many changes required since the fundamental concept of federation-based services is different and requires different user decisions, which need a UI. No instances on Reddit, are there? So there’s not an infinite number of log in urls, there is no need to gracefully handle defederation, instance-level blocking, etc.

      It’s not a copy paste job.

      Also, he offers a “restore purchases” button. It’s in settings.

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• h14h@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honestly I’m using, and especially posting on, Lemmy much more often now that I have sync back.

  I had been using Sync for Reddit for so many years that it became muscle memory. Now I have it back and things just feel right.

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  • sdrawk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m still waiting for Boost, but Sync is fine for now 🙂

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  • ijeff@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you have access to an unreleased build? Still no post submission support on mine just yet (commenting from Sync).

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    • Neve8028@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sync is still just in beta so a bunch of features are lacking. Post submission will come with time.

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• EmperorHenry@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Jeroba on mobile, web app inside of firefox with adblockers on desktop.

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I used Jeroba while I was waiting for sync to come out. Personally it’s really no competition, it’s great that it is being worked on but Jeroba is significantly worse in every way except for being open source. Hopefully someday it will be great!

    Synk is just so polished comparatively everything else feels unfinished

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    • viking@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I ditched Jerboa for Liftoff, and then Liftoff for Thunder because they all kept breaking.

      Thunder was alright, all things considered, but the UI is lacking. Now that Sync is out, I’m back to where I started 12+ years ago.

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  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Jerboa feels a lot like Joey

    Not quite, but close

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    • EmperorHenry@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know who or what Joey is.

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• blacklizardplanet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah I feel the same. I’ve been using Lemmy way more since Sync launched. I’m happy with it 🤷.

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  • Trapping5341@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I personally stopped browsing Reddit once getting sync. It just FEELS right.

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• TheMadnessKing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well Im trying out sync and it’s honestly such a good and polished app. A big Kudos to the dev. Would probably buy the premium if the pricing goes down.

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  • dditty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s definitely the most polished, snappiest, cleanest Lemmy app ATM and I am loving it

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Memmy is incredible. I wonder how they stack up.

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  • dlok@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Amazing how good it is considering the amount of back end changes needed.

    It was obviously written well with separation of concerns considered so it could be done that way.

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    • ProvableGecko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you count back the Reddit versions this is the 3rd or 4th version. Keeps getting better and better.

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• OR3X@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  $20 to support a solo dev AND remove ads from his awesome lemmy client? Sweet!

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  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • electriccars@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I too dream of a world where we’ve moved on from capitalism to a socialist utopia like is in the United Federation of Planets, but we are not currently in that world. So until that time, we all have to earn a living to pay our landlords and feed ourselves.

      For most things we are given a choice between ads or paying, and I almost always choose paying for no ads as I can’t stand them either. But until developers can live without bills and only do work for free because they enjoy it, our choice remains pay for no ads or be served ads. So I paid for no ads.

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    • DadVolante@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m gonna be really happy when school is back in session.

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  • sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, why are some people saying it’s a hundred dollars? I’m still using the free version, but my Google Play page is saying 20 bucks. I don’t know where that extra 80 is coming from

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    • RaulitoElLobito@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sync ultra

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• settoloki@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It does seem like a large number of Lemmy users are elitist snobs. I thought this place was turning out better than Reddit, but it’s looking like I was wrong. People like that ruin platforms like this and sour the experience.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    FOSS and focus on privacy does that to some people, they feel superior because they worry about those things they see as being beneficial.

    I’m sure many of the users from the before time were here specifically to not use a closed source, data gathering platform, so they’re a bigger proportion of users than they were on Reddit and they tolerate the most extreme elements of their community that also happen to be the most vocal.

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    • THED4NIEL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sometimes those extreme privacy preachers remind me of doomsday preppers.

      I too reduced my data finger print, started using uBlock, thought more often if the data in a registration form is really needed for the service they provide (and didn’t register when in doubt), and so on…

      I don’t have Facebook, WhatsApp, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter (anymore), the only things I have are Reddit, Lemmy and Mastodon.

      Still I don’t inspect every bit going through my network with Wireshark and PiHole to see, if some packet sent while watching a movie may contain personal data. At some point you gotta live a little instead of full-time fear mongering, doomsday preaching for the tech apocalypse.

      I have reduced my digital fingerprints by a large margin with common sense, I don’t need a 100% privacy speedrun, what counts is that you do something. And the effects show, especially in the form of less spam and recommendations for items you’ll never need.

      Google knows which topics I search for, big whoop, wouldn’t be much of a search engine otherwise.

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  • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think a lot of you are confusing privacy focused to elitism.

    No data should ever go to a google server from Lemmy app ever.

    A lot of people seem to think the issue is that’s he’s charging for it.

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    • armrods@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, it is elitism and gatekeeping

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  • maajmaaj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Toughen up, all the stuff you’re complaining about was happening on reddit. It’ll pass.

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  • faintedheart@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are many entitled people here. Some of them are from linux community. Anything other than that is bad and 1000 posts related to that. Another is sync and other apps. Especially open source only good, closed source everything bad. My feed was full of that. Even though I am a sync user i feel angry when seeing so many non sense posts supporting and against that. Even some communities not related to these are posting this.

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  • Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The reason why many people swapped was because Lemmy harbors smarter individuals. I need to feel superior simply because I use Lemmy? Otherwise there’s no point.

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• veroxii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Surely we can agree it’s better to have too many choices rather than having some greedy piggy ban them all.

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• jwagner7813@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One thing I didn’t like from Reddit, the elitism and gatekeeping posts from its users. OP, I’m right there with you.

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• cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Shouldn’t an ethical human choose tools that do more good than harm? As long as an application does that, does it matter if it’s open source or not? The software we use in our daily lives is a personal choice and people shouldn’t be shamed for choosing a closed source application. Especially one created by an independent, craftsman software company. Sync, and other well-designed for-profit clients, benefit Lemmy, an open platform. That benefits all.

  Let me add, many of us are social media refugees, fleeing exploitative and closed platforms like Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook. There is also nothing wrong with continually evaluating the closed source solutions we choose to prevent repeating past mistakes.

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  • Misconduct@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t know about doing good or harm but I’ve used sync for reddit for years and years. The dev isn’t some big corporation and that’s generally enough for me. I’ll support them as long as their app has the experience that I prefer. I tried a few different apps until sync came out and I really gave them all a fair shot but none of them felt right. The fact that so many users bailed to Lemmy because Reddit broke third party apps and then turned around and got up people’s butts for using specific third party apps is kind of hilarious to me. A huge wave of users came here for sync etc and people are trying to push them away or bully them like reddit did? They might not be bullying for the same exact reason but it’s got the same vibe imo.

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    • havokdj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ironically, from what I’ve seen the sync users have been way more radical than the “anti-sync” users.

      Before you read this I cannot stress enough that I’m neutral in this, I’m just a little irritated that I’m now seeing this in basically every sub.

      There’s been examples of the reverse from both sides, but the fact that I am now seeing this spam about pointless shit like this on shitpost is proof of this.

      It is just an app, both of you. Sync dev should donate some profit (even as small as 1%) to Lemmy devs because his app relies on their software. App itself doesn’t have to be free but if it includes anti-features in the name of profits it is only fair, otherwise it is an exploitation of the GPL.

      Lemmy being a FOSS project with no ads running, it is pretty much up to devs pockets, instances pockets, and donations to keep the project going. If the sync developer is going to make money off of an app that essentially serves as a gateway to this service, ethically speaking he should contribute to it considering the software itself is what even makes the app function. If Lemmy were to shutdown, the app would be useless.

      Having been involved in the FOSS community for 18 years, the community heavily relies on the collaboration, contributions, and donations of those who partake in it. Without at least one of those things, the project dies, I have seen it hundreds of times now. Wherever you (all of you) may stand when it comes to FOSS, know that using Lemmy technically makes you a part of that community.

      We will see if the people here are sane or not by watching the karma of this post. If it is negative then the people in this argument are blinded by unnecessary rage and need to cool it.

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• gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So far the only community I have blocked is the synch for lemmy community, because of the massive spam of posts about synch.

  So can we please stop spamming about it in other communities too.

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  • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    99% of the sync spam I’ve seen has been from every community other than the sync community. I saw maybe 3 posts from there saying they liked the app and that’s it, and everywhere else I see posts from people having a fit over using or not using 1 out of like, what, 10 available apps? The spam really isn’t coming from the sync community to begin with.

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    • Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah lol. All the spam I’ve seen comes from the meme communities that had multiple posts complaining about Sync. Like I’ve seen more people complain it isn’t FOSS than anything else so far.

      Only other major times I’ve seen it across lemmy was when it was up for pre-registration and when it came out. The former seemed to be spammed a ton because people thought it had actually came out and tried to spread the word & the former was just people posting when it actually came out.

      The complaining feels the same as when reddit mobile users kept laughing about 3rd party apps to feel superior in some way. I saw some actually comment how stupid some 3rd party app users were for paying for a paid app or subscription to view reddit when the official app was free.

      I’m just going to ignore the rest of these posts after this and hide them. It all just makes them look obnoxious and full of themselves. Basically the type of shit that made me happy to leave Reddit.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not really, at one point I had 5 different posts from the sync community of my feed, and now that I’ve banned then 90% of sync mentions ate gone.

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• STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  yeah i just dont care

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• Jackcooper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Gatekeepers are going to be the number 1 threat to lemmy growing

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• WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Me using browser ui:

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  • Stumblinbear@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The only objectively wrong option

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    • SaveComengs@lemmy.federa.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      federa.net a custom dark css, and I think it looks pretty nice.

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  • explodicle@local106.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Plot twist: it was Chrome

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• eochaid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m just happy for anything that brings people to Lemmy

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• mruniverse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I used sync for years and no matter how many times I tried using other Reddit apps I always went back to using Sync. I was happy to see Sync reborn again as a lemmy client. Yes FOSS is nice but I have no problems supporting LJ even if sync isn’t open sourced.

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• Aermis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m home 😭😭

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• Pistcow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ohana means family

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• Skelectrician@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not SfR, but it was created in a panic by a dedicated author. It’ll get better.

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• punseye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  i use sync btw

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• yoshipunk123456@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not a sync user but cant wait for infinity for lemmy to be mature enough to appear on fdroid

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• TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  i.imgur.com/mN4R4bx.jpg

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• okiokbar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m not an Android user, so I don’t know Sync, but it’s bound to be a better Lemmy app than those godawful cross platform ones. I’m glad it exists!

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• LovingCivilian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  home sweet home

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• TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lol that’s an iPhone.

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• I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Obligatory G'day from the kbin PWA :)

  We're still waiting for our native app.

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• maajmaaj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This shit wouldn’t be fun if we didn’t fight and shit talk each other from time to time. And I mean in general, not on the subject of the week. I’m the kind of person who will compliment a insult directed at me if it’s creative or pause an argument for some “real talk”. We are on earth for a short time, please don’t take any of this shit seriously.

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