moriquende
@moriquende@lemmy.world
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
The article explicitly states a model is being trained on private data.
You have avoided answering any of my questions and resorted to basically name calling. In light of it, I also see no longer any value in talking to you. Have a nice day.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Did you read the article? They’re using your private photos from your camera roll. It is an actual example of what I said. The part I mentioned about public photos was of previously posted photos on Facebook. Please read the article otherwise don’t ask for it.
Well, I’m replying to what you’re asking and arguing about, as you can tell if you reread our thread. I care about both privacy and intellect property. Shouldn’t be that hard to grasp. Also, you’ve just been asking questions and assuming my point of view without ever stating your own stance. Do you believe it’s fine for AI companies to use your personal data and your intellect property to train models they’ll profit from without your consent?
If you want to resort to ad hominem we can say good day and move on, that’s not the point of discussing things here. At least not for me.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
www.theverge.com/meta/694685/meta-ai-camera-roll
Just a recent example. Of course they’re vague about what “public” means, but if you really believe they aren’t using all the photos, you’d be pretty naive in my eyes.
If that’s what you want to call conservative go ahead, although it’s not what I’d typically associate with that word. Not sure where you see the problem? What does taxing wealth at increasing rates to decrease inequality have to do with enforcing intellectual property to protect intellectual workers?
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
AI companies are training models on photos and texts posted only for your friends to see in their networks, and worse, also on e-mails, personal images people are backing up, etc. That’s private information. It shouldn’t be used for training models.
With public information that everyone can see it’s from my point of view a gray area. If a magazine takes a public photo and uses it to sell copies, they’re stealing from the artist. But if they take that same photo and use it to train and sell an AI model, it’s a difficult situation to assess. I think our best approach so far is to respect the author’s wishes if they explicitly want to opt out. And yes of course I believe in intellectual property and copyright, if that was your question. They’re there for a reason, and they not only benefit big corporations but also small and independent artists and content creators.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Not sure why you think that but I don’t, I have strong feelings on personal privacy.
I believe you’re constantly trying to steer the conversation into “you and everyone who opposes unethical AI model training only want data owners to get paid”, but it’s not how it is. I want to prevent AI corporations from stealing. It’s a big difference.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Which convictions on property?
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Inequality is fine as long as it isn’t extreme. You can have limits on inequality by implementing rules. In my opinion it’s about finding a balance where neither the richest nor the poorest person strays too far from the median, otherwise you start having trouble and move slowly towards an oligarchy that’ll end in violence and suffering eventually.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
I’m on Lemmy everyday and haven’t come across any thread where vast numbers of people are cheering for big companies in any capacity. Of course you’ll probably have some who just want to stick it in the arse to AI companies and don’t think two steps further, but I don’t believe that’s anywhere close to a significant number of people.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
I hope you don’t believe people who are opposed to AI companies stealing data are also simultaneously rooting for big corporations such as the ones you mentioned. That would be a very misguided idea unfortunately.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
You put those words in my mouth, I never said I believe that. I’ve been saying that each person owns their data and have the right to decide what it can be used for.
It’s a separate discussion but: that rich people own most of the assets has a lot to do with the fact they steal and use stolen resources to appropriate more resources. It’s parasitic and needs to stop.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
I’m sure you’ll be the first one to provide public access to your private photos and texts so everyone can check how to improve their lives with those valuable resources.
Amazing how propaganda by the rich is so successful in making people believe it’s not them who are the parasites.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
A society that works for everybody is a fair society. Stealing intellectual property and user confidential data is not fair.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Assuming you’re right, it’s still not rent-seeking. If I believe that AI companies should be made liable for breaking copyright, I’m not personally receiving any monetary benefit. Where’s my rent?
It’s about principle. It’s unfair that a company can steal data and profit from it. Simple as that.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Precisely, and rent-seeking is what’s not happening here, as nobody is looking to profit. People are only looking to keep their private information private.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
Your problem is that the landlord analogy just doesn’t suit this situation.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
I’m not sure you have understood that people don’t want to profit from their data, they want to avoid corporations stealing their private texts and pictures to train models they’ll profit from.
- Comment on Pirates are Popular 2 weeks ago:
In your eyes, what are these AI haters complaining about?
- Comment on Anon sees happy people 6 months ago:
proceeds to squash him with her head
- Comment on Anon sees happy people 6 months ago:
Except people having it easier due to progress comes at the cost of nobody, while billionaires having it good comes at great cost to everybody but them.
- Comment on So bad it was actually entertaining 8 months ago:
I regularly go to a Vietnamese restaurant with work colleagues not only because the food is great, but the entertainment value of the owner berating you for not eating the expensive vegetables or calling you an idiot because you ordered the small drink despite the small price difference is just hilarious. You can tell he isn’t faking it too, the guy really just can’t keep it in. We love it, but I’ve met plenty of people who vowed to never return after the experience.
- Comment on Bless 🙏🏻 8 months ago:
Capitalism allowed that kid to die happy
- Comment on Papa Johns 9 months ago:
I guess they don’t mind being sent to eternal damnation in hell (lying is a sin)
- Comment on Anon is obsessed with Family Guy 10 months ago:
yes, and also he is the armchair
- Comment on MSc Mansplaining 10 months ago:
let’s not get too extreme here
- Comment on MSc Mansplaining 10 months ago:
you tell me, since you said you’d rather not help at all
- Comment on MSc Mansplaining 10 months ago:
If only there was a way of helping without being condescending or immediately assuming oneself to be more knowledgeable or capable on a topic with nothing to base it on other than physical appearance.
- Comment on i like welch's 11 months ago:
just don’t get off work - why even bother?
- Comment on Eat the rich? 1 year ago:
math checks out tho?
- Comment on Anon pirates a game 1 year ago:
Before you paid for “free” software with your data, you used to pay by agreeing to install a search bar in your browser. Usually you just uninstalled it directly afterwards. Not this guy though.
- Comment on Ant smell 1 year ago:
Lift just one side so your buttocks spread, then reach from the side to wipe. All the while, the seat carries (most of) your weight.