I flew to New Zealand and the only thing I saw on arrival was the baggage handlers throwing the suitcases so hard into the trailer that they fell off the other side.
Anon visits New Zealand
Submitted 8 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Weren’t the Maori also just invaders who killed the natives and brought invasive species with them? I feel kind.of ambiguous about this whole Maori fascination.
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The Maori were Polynesian navigators who were the first humans to settle NZ around 1300 AD. New Zealand and Hawaii were two of the last places on Earth to be reached by humans.
Then some of the Maori left from NZ and colonized the Chatham Islands around 1500. Due to their geographic isolation, they diverged culturally from the Maori, adopted a pacifist way of life, and came to be known as the Moriori.
In the mid-1800s, some Maori tribes, armed with muskets obtained from trade with Europeans, invaded the Chatham Islands and committed a genocide for nearly 30 years against the Moriori, who did not fight back because of their belief in pacifism. This is known as the Moriori genocide.
Stamau123@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In 1870, a Native Land Court was established to adjudicate competing land claims; by this time most Māori had returned to Taranaki. The court ruled in favour of the Māori, awarding them 97% of the land.The judge ruled that since the Moriori had been conquered by Māori they did not have ownership rights of the land.
Ahahahaha, wtf
ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 months ago
There’s still one little tribe of moriori left
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Nope. Not even close. That’s a myth used to invalidate actual Māori history.
The “moriori” were a Māori tribe on the Chatham islands who were conquered by mainland Māori.
Fun fact: NZ is the last place on earth to be permanently settled by humans.
TL;DR: Polynesians settled New Zealand over the 13th century, slowly lost contact with polynesia and the cultures diverged.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Are we just discounting that Antarctica still has no permanent residents?
Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Fun fact: Easter Island was probably settled about the same time, the Juan Fernandez islands weren’t settled until the late 1600’s.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 months ago
They were genocided by mainland Maori, the island’s inhabitants were either killed or enslaved, and forced to adopt the culture of their conquerors.
nyctre@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have a question about the fun fact. Trying to better understand it. If I were rich enough to buy an island and move to it, would that be the new last place to be settled by humans? If no, why not. And if yes, then surely there’s at least one example of someone doing that since the 13th century.
yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If you look back far enough most everyone is an invader
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Maybe we shouldnt be looking backwards for inspiration.
RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kinda sorta. The Moriori settled in the Chatham Island (a few hundred km south of New Zealand) and were later victims of genocide at the hands of a Maori tribe during the musket wars. Previously it was assumed that the Moriori came to the Chathams in a separate wave of migration to the ones that brought the Maori, but more recent evidence seems to point to them arriving in New Zealand at about the same time, then moving south.
There were a few species that went extinct between the Maori arriving in NZ and the Europeans showing up, but expecting an ecosystem to not change when a new apex predator shows up is just “noble savage” BS.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Some of them were cannibals too.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Haka Tua
lemmylommy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s like a NZ Bollywood movie.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Should’ve went to Hawaii instead.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Replace “Haka” with “Lei ceremony” and “LOTR museum” with an observatory.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The white people being more Maori than the Maori is pretty accurate actually.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
No. It’s just that some of us Pākehā actually care about preserving and supporting a people and a culture that our ancestors did their best to eradicate.
Those of us that care enough, will find out the appropriate ways to provide such support.
Auckland Airport has some (IMHO somewhat crass) token Māoritanga in the international terminal. They’re quite happy to exploit Māori when there’s tourism dollars to be made.
IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thank you. I feel like not a lot of people consider this angle. I mean, whatever your personal heritage is, if the people of New Zealand don’t take some sort of stewardship over the national heritage, no one other country is going to.
Murvel@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Found one, I think…
PaellaVacuum@reddeet.com 8 months ago
You can’t say no and just prove his point. Good job on the whitewashing though, phenomenal theft of their culture.
KellysNokia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I enjoyed the meme, but it’s still better to have folks embrace your indigenous culture than try to stamp it out or banish it to the undesirable parts of your homeland.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 months ago
You’re right, but it’s pretty cringe sometimes. I’ve seen a video call full of white people having a meeting about something that has nothing whatsoever to do with Maoridom start a meeting with a Karakira. It’s very performative a lot of the time.
It’s kinda hard to describe the attitude some people have.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Unfortunately it got embraced heavily in corporate office culture not so much in everyday culture so most peoples day to day experience with maori culture is very soulless and performative. The only positive is its keeping the language alive.