Submitted 3 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Use Zotero
…jesus-tapdancing-christ-on-a-cracker, batman! How have I never heard of this?! I just pulled up a few videos on Zotero and this shit looks amazing!
I’m a semester into nursing school, and I know the higher we push that degree up, the more writing - and more strict with citations - the content becomes.
I’m downloading the shit out of this.
Thank you so much for making that your title!!
Zotero is awesome, and I’d also recommend the browser extension with an account. Account is free, but it’ll let you save any web sources with all the metadata you need and sync it to the main program.
Zotero in combination with LaTeX and Biber have saved me so much time. Especially when I had a crazy professor who would make last minute changes to style requirements. I remember we had a paper to write that they initially said “Just cite with whatever format you want, it’s fine as long as they info is there.” Cool, write my ten pages or whatever with footnotes containing short citations and full citations available in the bibliography at the end. The night before the paper was due, “Actually, I need all papers to use APA citations or you’ll be docked points.”. No problem, just change my citation style at the top of my LaTeX doc and tell it to reprocess the paper, all the citations fixed in about 5 seconds, without even needing to learn the ins and outs of APA formatting.
Dude it is blowing my mind how good this software is. This semester has like 30 or so different drugs we need to read up scattered in these weekly worksheets. All the info we plug in needs to be cited. Was the same last semester and those friggin things took FOREVER to finish. This semester… I’ve been doing pretty much nothing but those since my last post. They’re done. For the entire semester… which just started. They’re fucking DONE! All the in-text citations… *poof* there they are! All the full citations at the end of the document… *poof* all there, correctly formatted and in the correct order.
That was days of work last semester. I just got it all done in 6 hours.
BRUH!!
Open source and looks very useful so I’ll link
It’s kinda fucked up that they don’t teach students this first thing as part of basic media literacy.
Same goes for teaching version control such as git to anyone writing or collaborating on complex text (not necessarily even code).
Use zotfile extension (or equivalent since the v7 is not backward compatible) and it’ll save your time managing those pesky pdf too.
Thanks for the tip - will do!
Use LaTeX
use both
What if you’re allergic?
Can confirm: am allergic to latex and use LaTeX. Benadryl and barrier cream are my friends.
Zotero + Latex = <3
I write monstrous documents (hundreds of pages). Zotero is all I use. It’s ridiculously simple and you CAN SHARE REFERENCE WITH OTHER PEOPLE SO THEY DONT HAVE TO ENTER THEM.
This might not seem like a big deal, but I can get junior to prep a doc and share reference, or just enter references for me before I start writing and it saves a pile of time. Further, I can call references that my colleagues have entered.
My boss usually adds references by hand. I think he’s just crazy.
Jesus. Does he work by candlelight too?
Yeah, it’ pretty surprising to me that people I consider so smart are technologically inept.
Yeah as an assistant for a bunch of 1st yearers at university I am sooo going to recommend Zotero
It’s pretty much abandonware, but the original mendeley software is the bomb. Starting to play with afforai and it seems interesting.
Uhhh, they just released the v7 tho?
The new one is severely crippled. It’s just a web shell. I forget when they switched over but I think it was when Elselvier bought them. At the same time they dropped their phone app which was a real bummer. It’s obvious that it’s more of a side project now than a serious app.
Yup, messed up all my workflow when they changed the plugin
I mean, depends on whether you think someone will actually check what the references actually say or just eyeball the titles and go LGTM.
Lol this. Back in college, I would just write the paper and then grab some sources from the bottom of some corresponding Wikipedia pages
That’s the same as writing tests for software code after writing the code. A mystery without end or reliability.
Tests? What tests?
The software either works or it doesn’t. There, tested!
True, they can be hard to find.
eMacs + orgmode + zotero + latex
I just do Auctex instead of orgmode, bud this is the way.
Admittedly I’m half a decade out of academia and these days I do most of my communication in PowerPoint
This is what LLMs are for. Just double check their work.
How exactly would you use an LLM for something like this?
Here’s an example prompt;
Instructions: I need to create APA format citations for my research paper based on the 7th edition of the APA guidelines. Below are examples of correct APA citations for different types of sources, followed by a list of sources that need to be cited. Please generate the citations accurately, paying special attention to formatting rules such as capitalization, italicization, and punctuation.
Important Formatting Rules:
Citation Examples:
Journal article: Author, A. A., Author, B. B., & Author, C. C. (Year). Title of the article. Title of Periodical, volume number(issue number), pages. doi.org/xx.xxx/yyyy
Book: Author, A. A. (Year). Title of the book. Publisher.
Website: Author, A. A. (Year, Month Day). Title of the webpage. Website Name. URL
Sources List:
Additional Instructions:
Once you have generated the citations, please double-check for consistency in formatting (capitalization, italics, and punctuation) and ensure that all sources follow the APA 7th edition rules.
Thank you!
That’s a lot of trouble, you can just ask it if it’s telling the truth.
It straight up makes up sources and citations.
I was intending for the author to chomp in the data and the LLM to spit it out properly formatted.
Mendeley also works ok 🫡 but I still add them mostly in the end lol just need yo put [that really important paper] and then do it after
If anyone is choosing between them I’d advise going with Zotero because it’s an open source project. No chance of it shutting down or changing the terms of service.
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m so old that the last time I wrote a research paper, it was on a word processor with no Internet connection or spell check.
Given such constraints, I can’t fathom the concept of waiting until the end to add all the references. If I didn’t do it as I went, I’d have surely died.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Yes having friends/colleagues read papers before submission is still common practice.
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I hope that wasn’t a stupid question. I’ve been out of that game since before most people on the Internet were born, so I didn’t want to make assumptions based on “that’s how we used to do it.”