It is time for Signal.
Umm I think I'll just delete you instead
Submitted 1 year ago by xaxl@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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genfood@feddit.de 1 year ago
gosling@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t get how people expect services to stay free while also being against any kind of subscription or ads and barely donate to support these projects.
This isn’t an essential feature they’re paywalling. I don’t even remember the last time I sent a voice note, let alone get one from a stranger. Feels more like a thank you from the devs for supporting them
joao@aussie.zone 1 year ago
I’d understand paying for an active feature, like to SEND voice messages, but not having to pay to restrict spam sent my way.
Ser_Salty@feddit.de 1 year ago
Also it’s not like voice messages auto play, so this really isn’t a necessary feature
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Why don’t they charge to use telegram infrastructure.
gunnm@monero.town 1 year ago
No thanks
darcy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
signal is the perfect messaging app for normies
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I would generally agree with you, if it could allow you to sign-in on multiple devices, and share message history. I understand why it doesn’t do either one, but it does cripple the experience
SirFancypants@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Technically, you can sign in on multiple devices and share history. I share between my phone and multiple desktops. You just can’t do it between two mobile devices.
Korne127@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But… you can’t sign-in on multiple devices and see the message history there?!
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
signal is the perfect messaging app for normies
But Signal doesn’t let me restrict receiving voice messages either. I only found options regarding calls, not voice messages.
Kyle@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I definitely prefer premium over my personal data being the product for “free”.
As I get older I’m appreciating paid electronic services and content when done responsibly in exchange for a private ad-free and well done experience. But it’s taking a lot to get over my decades of conditioning assuming everything on a computer and internet should be “free”.
I’ve enjoyed my kagi premium search trial and seeing the prices is a bit much. But getting really good search results and having the webpage or search run so fast and seeing my ad blocker greyed out because there were no ads and trackers to block is surreal this day and age.
I just wish we had a better way of trusting telegram. The only thing encrypted by default is secret chats. I’d buy premium if it made all chats including group chats started by the user encrypted by default.
irotsoma@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, problem with the fremium model is that they usually still collect and sell information on their premium users just the same as their free users. The premium just add some semi-essential features that they cut out for the free users. And finding truly 100% premium services that don’t sell personal data is rare these days because that’s where the money is for now, information. I don’t mind paying for a good service, but I won’t both pay and share my personal information, that’s just paying twice.
Pokethat@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The issue is that is that now they have your billing address and credit card number
linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I totally agree with you, but it’s the damn cable model all over again.
Pay us so we don’t have to make money by selling you stuff.
Hey, we can still make money by selling them stuff.
mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Kagi is really, really good.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I will never understand why people switched from WhatsApp to telegram. Tg is just Russian WhatsApp.
ananesiken@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Telegram apps are open source, syncs great and accessible from literally everywhere, has great customizability, sends 2 gb files without breaking a sweat, has awesome channels, has bots that is pretty useful… need more reasons?
hierophant_nihilant@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Also, never sold any data to any authorities, all the security issues came from users not paying attention to privacy settings. The stigmatisation of telegram as ‘russian messenger’, even though the team that made it and maintains it left russia a long ago, prevents this software from getting its rightly deserved popularity
zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Telegram is in every way better. My primary reason for prefering Telegram over anything else are bots (API specifically). I mean bots functionality is so awesome that I can’t properly describe how awesome it is. <3
Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 1 year ago
Telegram by default does not send end-to-end encrypted messages (only in secret chats) and thus can be considered very unsafe as the server owner can literally read all your messages.
They give the user the impression that they are similar secure to e2e encrypted messengers but really are not since most users just start a normal chat.
This also means that, in theory, surveillance is very possible and likely as the russians are not really to be trusted by anyone. Privacy nightmare.
wqzwqz@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Plus the best stickers ever.
Summzashi@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Telegram is an infinitely better user experience then WhatsApp.
Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 1 year ago
Signal all the way
RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What are the kids using nowadays? Signal?
oleorun@lemmy.fan 1 year ago
Signal
Spider89@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Matrix
zzz@feddit.de 1 year ago
Yes Signal is goog
hierophant_nihilant@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Whatsapp doesn’t have even a tiniest bit of telegram functionality, most importantly, bots. The person who made this post bitches about weirdly specific functionality that doesn’t affect you at all. I have a telegram premium (which is dirty cheap) and I never knew I could ban sending VMs, nor I had any reason to do so. Even in the free version you can restrict people who can write to you (e.g. only your contacts), if you don’t like to get VMs from your friends, just tell them. Also, security-wise, we all know that whatsapp gives your data to whatever US authorities ask and tg never did anything like that. All the security risks came from users not paying attention to privacy settings, like exposing their mobile number.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have a telegram premium (which is dirty cheap)
Is it cheaper than USD 4.99 per month? That’s the cost I could find online. Premium is not available where I live, so I cannot just take a look.
WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As I remember it, nobody had cared about Telegram until Signal started gaining some traction as a more private WA alternative. Telegram just rode that wave, plus I suppose it has better support for large groups I guess? The fact that those aren’t even encrypted just gets lost.
Polar@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Telegram is literally what WhatsApp wishes it could be. Also Pavel doesn’t get along with Russia.
hardypart@feddit.de 1 year ago
It has the absolute best and fluid user experience of all messengers I’ve tried so far, especially if you’re additionally using the desktop client.
Caboose12000@lemmy.world 1 year ago
TIL telegram is Russian and bad. dang.
Pechente@feddit.de 1 year ago
It’s not. The founder is russian and created vKontakte but basically had it taken away from him by Putin. He’s outspoken against the regime and just because he’s born in Russia shouldn’t mean he should be seen as part of that crappy government.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
No. He was born Russian, but has moved out of it after his other social platform VK was confiscated and now owned the Russia. He lives in Germany, where he placeed Telegram’s HQ.
dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Telegram is not Russian. The creator is, but that is about it.
dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think they are referring to the large Russian user base.
NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Telegram has much better Windows/iPad apps, open source client, faster, more customizable, support for sending lossless-files, etc. It’s a much better app, and not owned by Meta
Delta_44@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My eyes are bleeding…
Kraivo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I really hate whatsapp design for some reason
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I avoided using telegram when it asked for my phone number.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I avoided using telegram when it asked for my phone number.
So you don’t use Signal and Element either?
min_fapper@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 year ago
Element does not require a phone number. Signal does, and yes I don’t use it for that reason.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nope
neonfire@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Never noticed because I’ve never received a single voice message in the 5+ years of using it. Then again, I only use it with friends and not large communities. I’ve had spam messages, but they’re rare and just text talking about crypto.
Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
And thats why I switched to Matrix and set up a Telegram bridge.
FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ll stick with Signal thanks
woelkchen@kbin.social 1 year ago
Signal can block voice messages? How?
Polar@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I switched all of my friends and family to telegram in 2013. I deleted it 2 months ago. 10 years.
Telegram was so great. Always cutting edge, released so many features before anyone else, and the app always stayed extremely lightweight. What broke the camels back for me was them destroying transfer speeds for free users.
I have 1gbps internet connection, and videos and photos take FOREVER to download and send on telegram. Trying to send a short 30 second clip on telegram takes a good 90-120 seconds, even on the lowest compression.
Meanwhile snapchat and other apps take 3 seconds and look better?
They are trying to push their premium so hard, which is fine, gotta pay, but I’m sorry there’s no chance in hell all of my friends and family are paying $7 CAD each per month.
At this point I’ve just switched to RCS messages for all of my Android friends, and Snapchat for my stubborn iOS friends.
IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For a long time it was ran on money that Durov made from VK and it’s selling deal and had no ads, almost perfect development. It was a ton of money obviously, but we all knew it would run out sooner or later and then everything change. I bought premium once because I wanted to support the project, and I still use it. Hopefully I won’t have to use anything else, because I hate almost any other messenger.
Delta_44@lemmy.world 1 year ago
EXACTLY.
Everyone else here is forgetting that Telegram is still pushing the limits and it’s still one of the best app for messaging (the best in my opinion though), if they’re recurring to this, it’s because money aren’t unlimited.
Shut the hell up you people: Telegram still isn’t invading privacy and using anti-user practice, the hell you complaining about?
reev@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Thank you. I would love to support telegram with premium because they’ve done so much in the past couple years but can’t because I can’t buy premium where I live.
The main thing that frustrates me is not being able to turn off the emoji interface in their official app.
figaro@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Serious question - isn’t snapchat an absolutely horrible messaging experience? The messages literally disappear, the app is shit, and the messaging interface is shit. And you can see when someone is actively reading the message. I hate all of that.
Do people seriously use it for day to day messaging with people?
nosnahc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Annnnnnnnnnd…Signal!
just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Signal is superior in all the important security ways anyway. You’re not losing much except stickies and emotes or whatever.
ToNIX@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Signal is only good at doing one thing, and that’s encryption. It lacks so many useful features that Telegram has.
gunnm@monero.town 1 year ago
Normies are missing all Telegram has, and that’s not security.
nosnahc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I know, I only use Signal ! But tell that to all the others who explain to my why Whatsapp is so much better…
mryessir@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Using telegram for years. Its the best messenger.
Don’t have any troubles. I can use e2e-chats if needed.
I truely trust them. Besides, their Android client has the best Android source code I have ever seen. Very good resource.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Your response reads like a paid AstroTurf comment.
Putting the ability to block or restrict receiving something behind a paid subscription is batshit crazy. That is an extremely shitty thing to do and will just result in people not using the service entirely as soon as they try to block something like spam or harassing messages. Just because you don’t run into any problems with how you use it, that doesn’t mean there aren’t issues people run into daily.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’m always wary of those who support enshittifying decisions like these. There’s almost always an agenda, or an astounding level of ignorance.
mryessir@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I can block user without problems. Plus I can decide for each one my own privacy settings.
I don’t see it. There isn’t even any option to buy premium. And I just updated…
soulifix@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I keep forgetting why sometimes I even use Telegram. It’s just there. I don’t want their dumb subscription.
gunnm@monero.town 1 year ago
You can use it without premium.
bappity@lemmy.world 1 year ago
WTF?
Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@kbin.social 1 year ago
What bugs me about Telegram is all the messages by scammers posing as pretty women. I seriously get one every day.
fietsbel@feddit.nl 1 year ago
telegram, originated from our russian friends, and they use it heavely to push their views, eventhough i think that everybody should be able to express their views, still i would not like that my kids would use it, hence it is blocked @ home.
Laice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just use another Client.
PotjiePig@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So we want free apps that offer everything and don’t take your data or advertise. It must also have constant security apps and a fleet of developers keeping it running. Good Luck finding that unicorn.
I actually like this development. I’d much rather pay for a service with money over my privacy.
cloaker@kbin.social 1 year ago
Signal literally exists. Free.
FoxBJK@midwest.social 1 year ago
It’s only free because they’re trusting users to donate. That method of generating income for their developers could stop working at any time. Lots of FLOSS projects struggle to find kosher funding.
supermarkus@feddit.de 1 year ago
Signal has fewer features than non-premium Telegram. Both are open source, neither can be used with alternative servers (unlike Matrix).
waka@feddit.de 1 year ago
Signal uses donations to keep running. That’s one of the reasons why they don’t need to do this kind of crap. Kinda like Firefox.
It’s sad to see that slowly but surely the Internet gets divided into the more and more useless giant sector and the free and open sector, which just doesn’t get the attention it needs to be attractive enough for most to switch over. And then there’s also this weird shadow area where I often hear those pirate chanties from…
FoxBJK@midwest.social 1 year ago
Firefox wants to rely on donations but in reality 90% of their funding comes from an advertising company.
Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 year ago
Sounds like the best open source projects out there. How bout we use our tax money to fund great free software for everybody?
yoz@aussie.zone 1 year ago
People like you are really good for my business and I love it. Thank you🥰