The “Vegans are loud and annoying” crowd are more loud and annoying than actual vegans in my personal experience.
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Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Ah yeah, I’ve had some interactions with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.
nl4real@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Moc@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Often when society had an extreme default position on a topic, its defenders sound batshit insane.
See:
- Gay and trans rights
- Reproductive rights
- Veganism
- Unregulated capitalism
- Homelessness
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 days ago
So true. I’m not vegan, but someone proudly yelling about how much meat they eat is so fucking cringe. Very “suck it, libs” mindset.
ikidd@lemmy.world 4 days ago
But probably won’t get called a murderer 20 seconds into the discussion though.
Sombyr@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
You’d be surprised. Both “The farming of your plants kills more animals than livestock raising” and “veganism is genocide because they’ll stop breeding the animals if we stop eating them” unironocally come up almost instantly when I talk about it and I’m not even quite vegan, I just avoid animal products because of allergies to a lot of them…
TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 1 day ago
politely raises hand While I think factory farming is abhorrent, I find the most compelling reasons to eat plant-based to be the environmental ones. Therefore, I think “I only eat a little bit of meat” is actually a huge positive step someone can take. If your primary concern regarding meat is the cruelty of taking the life of another animal, that’s completely valid, but compared to the others, that square just feels out of place.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
35 points for Ravenclaw for the provision of the vegan bingo.
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It took me a whole 24 hours to realise that the person having a weird, inconsistent, fact-swerving argument with me (about my assertion that most male cattle are killed young for meat) was the original one from the screenshot!
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
My last time talking to them, they were arguing that the use of the word “exploitation” in the vegan society’s definition of veganism simply meant “use” because that’s a thesaurus entry for exploitation. When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I found the comment chain. Nuts. They always pick and the weirdest stuff to argue over.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
that never happened
python@programming.dev 4 days ago
That link is a really cool resource, thanks!
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I’m not antivegan
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Unequivocally, yes you are, and at that, you’re one of the most agonizingly stubborn and disinformed ones I’ve ever talked to.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
your link shows the same as the op thread: I’m primarily interested in a factual, scientifically accurate discussion.
friendlymessage@feddit.org 4 days ago
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 days ago
My link shows that you’re interested in muddying the waters by either intentionally spreading disinformation or by speaking with absolute confidence about subjects you clearly lack the capacity to understand even the most fundamental principles of.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I’m the authority in my own beliefs, and I am not antivegan
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You sure love to argue against points that you perceive as supporting veganism, though!
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
TIL there’s a bingo TLD.
EfreetSK@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I’m not even sure if that bingo is supposed to be pro-vegan or anti-vegan …
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
When I was a young vegling, I spent some time doing “outreach” on r/DebateAVegan (air quotes because it often felt about as impactful as having a wank), and you’d see those bingo arguments being used ALL THE TIME.
I actually did occasionally get some fairly novel and thought provoking stuff, from time to time, but mostly it was explaining the basics of biology or econ to people like in OP’s example.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
My main problem is when people are aggressively trying to make me feel guilty about just living.
python@programming.dev 4 days ago
Just curious, does a community like that exist here on lemmy? I do have some questions that aren’t answered by the vegan bingo and would love to ask someone, but going straight to !vegan@lemmy.ml feels kinda intrusive
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
!vegan@lemmy.ml specifically disallows debate style posts. Your best bet is probably either !askvegans@lemmy.ca or !vegan@lemmy.world
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Almonds are bad for bees? Huh
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 5 days ago
The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat “from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they’re hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs.”
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Aw man I fucked that up. My uncle has 40 cows on 3 acres that get hand scrubbed by figs while eating cherubs.
Wolf314159@startrek.website 4 days ago
So we’re not getting hand milked by 40 cows while getting figged by 3 cherubs.
riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
and the cows only die of old age and untreatable disease…
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I don’t care about my corpse after I’m dead, but I do somewhat disagree with getting killed.
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 days ago
But would you want to … get … Milked?
Sorry
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You wouldn’t drink Valmond milk?
swab148@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Yes please
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 days ago
Yes
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Either way, it would be really hard to voice my opinion
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
I donate my corpse to necrophilia after I die. Go nuts you guys.