In the US, you’re lucky if you get paid for the hours you work. And many don’t get all of their hours paid.
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Diddlydee@feddit.uk 4 weeks agoIs this a US thing? Do you not get paid for your lunch hour? That’s wild.
gdog05@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
In the US, it’s Salary, not Hourly. It’s not “getting paid for the time”, you get paid for doing the job you agreed to do.
xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Most salaried workers are written up if they fail to work 8+ hours. Salaried is now just a method to deny people overtime - fancied salaried workers may still operate in the intended way but even most developers I know have to obey some sort of time tracking method.
otp@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I live in Canada. We get a half-hour lunch that isn’t paid in my province.
Also, if you take more than 3 sick days a year, your boss can fire you. And the 3 sick days are unpaid. The government lowered the number from 10 to 3 shortly before the pandemic, and didn’t raise it again! Oh, and to count, your boss can demand a doctor’s note. Which cost money to the patient.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Damn, Canada is becoming less and less a viable escape plan from American fascism…
otp@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
There might still be some decent provinces.
But yeah, I blame brain drain, cuts to the education system, and the influence of American culture! Haha
Decipher0771@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Where do you live, Alberta? Or one of the maritimes??
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Sounds like Ontario 🙃
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
That really sounds like one of the flat-lander regions.
I get 21 holidays a year, not counting every second friday off because of my 9x9 compressed-time agreement. If I plan it right, and hit the stats with the comp days, that’s 7 weeks off a year. Why, that’s almost european. I’ve just finished my first year at this shop.
otp@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
It’s Ontario! aka. Open for (Big) Business. No longer “Yours to Discover” because it’s all been sold off.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
That’s so toxic! I get an hour long paid lunch break, and a bunch of paid sick days. Your work’s policies are shit, I’m so sorry!
otp@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
It’s not my work’s policies. I get better than that. It’s what my province legally mandates that’s the problem.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Oh shit, sorry! I’m so happy you get better than that. Those are garbage mandates that predatory businesses for sure take advantage of. I hope your stuff is as good (ideally better) than mine.
It doesn’t affect me but my work also rolled out months of paternity leave which is BAAAAASED
benni@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Same in Germany, I think this common in many countries, no?
amelia@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Where do you get paid for your lunch hour? I’m in Germany and while work life balance is certainly a thing here, more so than in the US, a paid lunch break is something I have never heard about.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Depends on the state, in my state you legally have to get paid for 30 minute lunches but not hour long lunches. No idea why but because of this most office jobs will give you an hour lunch in addition to your mandated 2, 10 minute breaks.
Honestly I would love to just take a 30 minute break and get out earlier. It’s not even about the money.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
You get paid for lunch? Where is that? We don’t either in Switzerland
LemmyRefugee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
In Spain, if you work more than 6h you have at least a 15 minutes break that almost always is paid. But people usually work 5 or 6h, 1 or 2 hours for lunch (not paid), then the rest.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Ah that’s interesting, thanks.
Here in Switzerland if a shift is longer than 5.5 hours it needs to have at minimum 15min unpaid break for lunch by law. Longer than 7 hours means 30min unpaid lunch and longer than 9 hours means an hour unpaid lunch by law. Additionally if the split is uneaven such that the period before or after lunch is over 5.5 hours, then you recursively get another break following the above rule by law. But these are all unpaid and do not count as hours worked.
The usual reality for typical 8.2 h/d office jobs is that people take half an hour to an hour of lunch, unpaid, and companies allow two 15 min paid coffee breaks, one in the morning, one in the afternoon.
LemmyRefugee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The unpaid break is also the same in the general work law (Estatuto de los Trabajadores) but professions get extra laws that apply to them (convenio del metal, convenio de farmacia, etc) where they can go better than the general law, and most ‘convenio’ pay for that 15 min break. Lunch time? Never paid unless you agree directly with your company, but some nice companies (I don’t have numbers but in my experience in the IT industry may be around 30% of them) give you 10-12€ a day to help pay your lunch or they have cafeterias where you eat for 4 or 5€.
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
Typically no but my current employer pays us for 1/2 of our 1 hour lunch.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Spaniard here. Not only does my company not pay me for lunch time. It also demands it to be at least 30 minutes long. How is it even legal to force my unpaid time to be a minimum amount?
bstix@feddit.dk 4 weeks ago
It’s probably a law. Mandatory minimum breaks make perfect sense for factory workers.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They should be paid though
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
For the record, lunch time is not considered paid time in Sweden either.
Letstakealook@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Most people don’t. So, for an average employee, it would be 9-530 to account for their unpaid 30m lunch required by law.
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I believe many places lunch is not required, and neither is any limit on number of hours per day required.