I think the only country that's legit happened to was Iraq,
Vietnam?
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PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,
Usually it’s more about how traumatized the POWs captured by your country’s soldiers were. Unbroken being the major cinematic example, and all the stories about Senator McCain refusing early release and being tortured for it and the guy who blinked reports of torture out in morse code while reading a hostage statement in Vietnam being the more “stuff of legends” examples.
American Sniper is the only one I’ve seen where it’s about how some soldier who didn’t experience anything above the typical background humm of war felt about the whole thing.
Probably because being a US military troop is the least dangerous it’s ever been, so the major condition most troops will face isn’t death or permanent injury, but instead PTSD from having faced combat or Survivor’s guilt from having been suddenly shifted off the rare doomed mission or patrol that still claims casualties at the last second.
Most enlisted troops are just career workers in camo with a REALLY rigorous on the job fitness program. There’s a reason the US is everyone’s intel and logistics repository, and it’s because for every dollar spent on actually fighting, ten grt spent on building up so much intelligence that the deck is as stacked as it can be before the cards even come out of the box to be dealt.
I think the only country that's legit happened to was Iraq,
Vietnam?
Vietnam movies were usually either about POW experiences or about the absolute pointlessness of it all, which doesn’t really line up with “bombing your country and then making movies about how sad it made them”
I have literally never seen a depiction of Vietnam that was positive or shy of direct condemnation of how terrible it all was.
Seriously, even Forrest Gump’s innocent portrayal of it still managed to underline in bold that it was all pointless, needless, and cruel beyond reason.
I have literally never seen a depiction of Vietnam that was positive or shy of direct condemnation of how terrible it all was.
Seriously, even Forrest Gump’s innocent portrayal of it still managed to underline in bold that it was all pointless, needless, and cruel beyond reason.
Not sure what about any of that doesn’t line up with “sad”. None of those adjectives border on happy or nonchalant.
Because that’s not “made the soldiers sad” it’s “this entire thing was awful and a fucking crime.”
You’re trying to insist that media that would agree that it was a bad thing is exploitation media because…it agrees with you?
How do you forget Vietnam…
Drugs and alcohol, and lots of them.
I asked myself the same question in March of 2003
As others have said there’s a bunch more, but the one that really grinds my gears is The Covenant
We really spent 20 years telling these terps they and their families would be safe, then just fucking left and made a MOVIE about that shitty bullshit underhanded move?
Put every single goddamn joint chief in front of congress and ask why this is a fictional tale
Honestly what gets me about evac failures and abandonments is the Berlin Airlift.
We had the logistics to mount a months long rescue operation that could get everyone fleeing out decades before these rushed withdrawals.
Everyone in Saigon and Kabul could have been gotten out, fuck we could have mounted a rolling evac bringing collaborators behind lines and transporting them in a trickle so that the last folks out are in a relatively empty air schedule. Expanding and contracting sphere, keep everyone who’s in it willingly behind the line so long as they willingly continue to move with it.
We go in get the resource then leave. Werner van Braun got a first class ticket to the US
Soldiers in the sandbox were playing COD on Xboxes in the hooch before going out to a real life version where people lived in bombed out huts, then promising if you work with us you’ll get a better life in America
The US military has many faults but logistics is not one. Every single terp and their cousin could be living in Milwaukee right now…but we fucking chose not to.
Pushing functional birds off a carrier deck to make room for people is the definition of Churchill’s quote. Americans will do the right thing after exhausting every other option.
This presupposes that every single person working to make change in their home is willing to just up and leave at a moments notice (or years in advance, which kind of undermines the entire motive to want to effect change, again in their home)
I’d imagine all but the densest motherfuckers on the face of the earth would see that the force standing between them and summary execution at best is calling the retreat and realize the value of being alive somewhere else vs dying on the patch of dirt you happened to feel the most attached to at that moment.
the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq
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ten grt
Is this “ten are”, and a really bad typo? Or is grt some form of currency abbriviation I don’t get?
Ten get
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
MAS*H (Korea)
Jarhead (Iraq, but the first time)
Lone Survivor (Afghanistan)
The Men Who Stare at Goats (Guantanamo Bay Torture Facility in Cuba)
Letters from Iwo Jima (Pacific Theater - WW2)
Saving Private Ryan (European Theater - WW2)
Heartbreak Ridge (Grenada)
Full Metal Jacket (Vietnam)
Rambo (Vietnam)
Apocalypse Now (Vietnam)
We Were Soldiers (Vietnam)
Good Morning, Vietnam (Vietnam)
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Yes, because fucking Rambo of all movies is about how bad american soldiers felt about what they did.
Thanks for the laugh
mlg@lemmy.world 5 months ago
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This never gets old lol
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
It’s funny, but it’s not true.
It’s something like “the gallant people of Afghanistan” and always was.
booly@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The first Rambo was definitely about PTSD and how the act of killing fucks up American soldiers.
turmacar@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think you’re confusing Rambo First Blood, which is about how fucked up he was coming back from Vietnam, with the Rambo sequels, which are about how cool blowing stuff up is.
SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Yes, it is, have you ever seen the movie? What a dumb comment.
sartalon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I don’t think you’ve seen some of these movies if you think it has anything to do with how sad it made them.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 months ago
MASH is about saving war casualties and they make light of it all the while
Saving Priyate Ryan is a WW2 movie that happens whether or not Matt Damon is involved
Jarhead is an accurate portrayal of the Suck
Not sure what point OP is trying to make here
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I don’t know about the others, but MAS*H seems to be heavily anti-war. Hawkeye obviously has deep contempt for the war and generals, and the more pro-war characters are decipted as insufferable pieces of shit.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Yes, because fucking Rambo of all movies is about how bad american soldiers felt about what they did.
Thanks for the laugh
theangryseal@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Rambo is just dood in ban danna shooting musheen gun and holding big nife.
I’m just being a dick. I haven’t seen it since I was around 7 so that’s all it was for me haha.
lath@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s actually about how shitty US vets are treated by the US. But the pew-pew takes lead in the eyes of most viewers, yes.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Just to pick one, Jarhead is not repeat not a war film. It’s about the Suck and sometimes you train for training sake