I really like that theory too. It further expands that vision is what granted us intelligence as creatures coming on land could see significantly further and thus start planning and reacting to distant changes giving birth to modern intelligence. To add, whales developed this intelligence and went back to the ocean to absolutely dominate it.
Comment on arthropods
mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 years ago
Just to put some context:
- Predatory scorpions a couple feet long
- Armored millipedes larger than a man; they were probably herbivorous but as the article notes they "would have had few, if any, predators."
- There is a theory, possibly not real well accepted but it makes sense to me, that trilobites were the creature that way-back-when invented effective predation shortly after evolving vision. (Before which the world was a fairly benign place.) The theory further supposes that the Cambrian Explosion was caused by every other organism on the planet having to scramble not to have their soft blobby flesh munched on at leisure by a limitless army of armored, invulnerable hunters, which they couldn't see or avoid, but who could see and follow them.
drmoose@lemmy.world 2 years ago
samus12345@lemmy.world 2 years ago
This video is really interesting and made me realize what a huge advantage it is to be able to remember things - something we take completely for granted, but isn’t required to survive.
AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
Fantastic addition to the conversation, thank you
Live_your_lives@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Why do you find that particular theory about the Cambrian Explosion compelling? I assume mankind is putting a similar pressure on many ecosystems today, so shouldn’t we be seeing that kind of evolutionary explosion happening now?
mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 years ago
Before: All phyla differentiated but all the creatures are soft and blobby and sort of unremarkable
After: All of a sudden there's trilobites everywhere, they can see and some of them hunt, and all creatures everywhere suddenly have all this armor and mobility and a lot of them have spikesI don't really know (even enough to talk about what might be the competing theories), but it seems like it fits and it doesn't seem all that farfetched. That said, it kind of seems like all the scientists think me and Andrew Parker are wrong though, so IDK.
(Also - I didn't know about this before as it's semi-new, but apparently Anomalocaris also had eyes and hunted, so star power of the trilobites aside maybe those guys were involved as well. I have to say though the timing of the way it's written in Wikipedia makes a little more sense if the sequencing is: Cambrian explosion -> some species turn into predators, as opposed to the other way around)
What humans are doing to the natural world right now is a global extinction event (not much different from has happened a handful of times). It's happening too fast for anything to adapt to except in the most short-term emergency ways. Mostly stuff is just dying. If we stay around for millions of years doing this same thing then I would expect the biosphere to develop defenses and then rebound into a new equilibrium with defense measures included against what we tend to do to it, in exactly that same way, but I don't think that we'll be around doing the same stuff for that long. I think once the current extinction pressure is gone (one way or another), there'll be quite a while of re-colonization of all the niches we wiped clean during the time when we were killing everything, instead of any lasting adaptation to us as a long term thing.
BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
It is happening now but evolution takes a long time. If there were a ton of adaptations that happened in the next 10,000 years, that would be incredibly fast on an evolutionary timescale
Azzu@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Humans have only been dominant for a few thousand years. Give it like a million for enough evolution to happen and then ask this question again.
anarchist@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
!remindme 1 million years ask this question again
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Just give it another million years or so.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 years ago
Humans are blitzkrieging the troposphere. Nothing could hope to evolve fast enough except fungi and bacteria I guess
flora_explora@beehaw.org 2 years ago
I crocheted a giant millipede that is about 1.8 m long and while doing this I also found that there lived actual millipedes that large long ago. Now I cuddle with my giant millipede and imagine that she was one of those giants! :)
maculata@aussie.zone 2 years ago
That looks much more like a Velvet Worm.
mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 years ago
That is incredibly charming 😃
samus12345@lemmy.world 2 years ago
trilobites were the creature that way-back-when invented effective predation shortly after evolving vision.
The fact that their closet living relative, the horseshoe crab, has remained pretty much unchanged for 445 million years lends credence to the idea that their design works very well.
sparkle@lemm.ee 2 years ago
anomalocaris anomalocaris anomalocaris
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I salivate whenever I hear about these ancient mega arthropods. Like, gigantic and armoured, whatever. But by modern standards, blind and incredibly stupid. And in that atmosphere you’d be constantly so well oxygenated. I don’t know why but I’m convinced these big fucks tasted like lobster.
HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Sounds like we need to break into a museum with some butter
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 years ago
It BELONGS in a CAFETERIA.
ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Let’s hit up the butter museum first.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Get some of that premium bronze age bog better.
Pringles@lemm.ee 2 years ago
A missed opportunity for a movie called Night at the Museum.