They are already working on weakening it.
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BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
In the United States, parody is protected by the First Amendment as a form of expression.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
That’s a very limited scope ruling.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
In terms of parody as a whole, sure, but in cases that involve trademarks it’s huge. They completely killed the test that was set by the prior precedent case.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It should be noted that that really only applies to citizens being protected from the government. There is no legal precedent to indicate that it would apply between citizens.
peto@lemm.ee 2 months ago
There comes an issue when a private citizen seeks to use the engines of state to punish those whose speech offends them.
It’s one thing to withdraw society and business from someone who offends you, quite another to demand that the state crush them for you. Of course, most states will do that to a greater or lesser degree. No state extends an absolute freedom of speech.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
That concept doesn’t really apply very well here.
The government can’t make laws restricting speech(with very limited exceptions) therefore other citizens can’t legally go after you for protected speech. They’re allowed to tell you you’re an asshole, they’re allowed to ignore you, but they don’t have a court case.
Azzu@lemm.ee 2 months ago
But all kinds of other laws protect citizens from other citizens. You can’t hurt them, can’t slander them, etcetc so there’s really not much most people can do.
False@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yuuuup, and a lot of times the people that get parodied love it. It’s like fuck we made it to the point where South Park makes fun of us. Only person I know of that got pissed was Kanye but fuck that guy anyways
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The best thing is he apparently actually didn’t get the fish sticks joke which, if true, makes Parker and Stone the best satirists of all time on merits.
Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
what was the joke meaning, i don’t watch south park
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Say it out loud.
“Do you like fish sticks?”
'Yeah
“Then you’re a gay fish.”
Kanye in the show didn’t get it and thought people were calling him a gay fish. So if real Kanye didn’t get the joke, and got mad because he thought South Park was calling him a gay fish… that’s just incredible.
Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The kids came up with the joke:
“Do you like fish sticks?” (Pronounced like “fish dicks”)
Then, when the person said yes, they’d call them a gay fish.
The joke becomes a meme on the show, but Kanye West doesn’t get it, despite having it explained to him. He thinks the joke is directed at him personally, and does actual scientific research to find out why people think he is a gay fish. At the end of the episode, he accepts his fate, and decides to live as a gay fish (complete with a catchy autotuned song.)
elxeno@lemm.ee 2 months ago
you wouldnt get it
Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nirvana famously said they knew they had made it when Weird Al did a parody of Smells Like Teen Spirit.
makyo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If I recall, Weird Al tries to get permission for all his parodies too, just further adding to the point that people mostly are good with that kind of attention.
Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That he does. The only snafu he had was with Coolio for Gangster’s Paradise. Apparently the label said yes but didn’t actually check with Coolio and he wasn’t happy about it. Weird Al apologized for the mixup and they made peace with it later. Weird Al said the only star that has consistently turned him down was Prince, who didn’t find the whole parody thing funny.
CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I’m pretty sure Prince wouldn’t give him permission.
MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
George Clooney liked the show so much he wanted to be on the show but they rejected his request initially since they don’t do famous voices. They in turn offered him the non-speaking role of Stan’s gay dog. Clooney showed up and gave a full performance of barks.
Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 months ago
George Clooney was instrumental in getting the show made in the first place. He liked their second Christmas short so much that he made hundreds of copies and gave them to all his friends, which helped them pitch the show.
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 2 months ago
He also got a speaking role later as the doctor in the movie.
Delphia@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And most of the ones who arent ok with it are aware of the “Streisand effect” and know that their best course of action is to either ignore it or pretend they are ok with it and wait for everyone to move on.
Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The Mormon church did this when the play Book of Mormon came out! Also amazing play if you have not seen it please do!!! There is a reason it won a Tony!
Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ah yes, the gay fish
Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 2 months ago
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rtxn@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And Kathleen “The Force Is Female” Kennedy.
zyratoxx@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And Prince Harry & Meghan
jaybone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have to doubt a lot of people love being parodied on that show. They are pretty harsh.
Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I take it you don’t have a brother or any close guy friends. It’s kind of what we do. We rip on each other and buy each other a beer. Same with competitive sports. At the end of the day we respect each other but can make fun of each other and live laugh and love
jaybone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is not like ripping on each other with your guy friends.
And this is not like Weird Al doing a parody of one of your songs, which most musicians do see as a badge of honor.
These are pretty damning (and accurate) personal attacks. Pretty sure j-lo, Paris Hilton and Britney Spears were not happy with their portrayal.