In France one of the only groups, maybe the only? not allowed to unionize is the police
Comment on Paris, France
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 days ago
So the police aren’t completely militarized yet, like here.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Not the police, as it is one the most unionized group of public servant workers in France, the biggest police union is called alliance, which is considered to be affiliated with the far right, and their spokespersons go bitching on tv like little crybabies every chance they get. The only group not allowed to unionized in France is historically military personnel, so maybe you’re thinking of the gendarmerie who are military and not cops even if most of what they do is cop things.
jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 day ago
it’s cool they’re destroying stuff to get educated better
i wonder if these guys will pass those courses they so desperately want
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 day ago
I don’t think Americans can really throw any shade on anyone about how to protest.
dreamkeeper@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Violent protests would be extremely counterproductive in the US right now. If you really believe otherwise then you need to step away from the Internet for a while, because you are totally delusional.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is kind of a dumb statement. The French also protested and destroyed a bunch of shit when the government raised the retirement age.
Guess what happened?
If you guessed the government raised the retirement age you would be right. So what does rioting and destroying a bunch of shit accomplish in France. If you answered nothing much you would be correct.
menas@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
You have heard of that demonstration, and not of the (LOT of) other one. So it’s a necessary mean. And you may be surprised that it have work in the past. Not always, but CEO whining for the destruction to stop have more chance than union asking politely to not be threaten by their workplaces
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not the demonstrators, it’s the usual bunch of idiots that use that excuse to break stuff and pillage shops. It’s become pretty much systematic.
ieightpi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
At this rate, they will be
AviAdi@suppo.fi 1 day ago
Not if they want to keep their heads in the upcoming trails. Lol
Seriously I hope there are public executions of their pedophile elites. Hopefully Americans will get inspired and we see Trump family get all killed on Livestream. ❤️❤️❤️
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Him, his family, everyone who donated over 10k in the last election to Republicans, anyone who donated to his ballroom fund and anyone he appointed to any government position need to be executed outright.
All this bullshit about reforming/expanding the supreme Court is entirely unnecessary. Nothing that Trump has done is legitimate. Just retcon all of his actions since 2016. His SC judges? Yeah they’re gone, straight to a military tribunal. The next president will get to nominate at least 3 new SC judges, and every case since a Trump nominee hit the court will need to be re-done. Same with his cereal judge nominations. Fox News will lose it’s broadcast license along with other foreign owned media companies that have conspired to subvert our democracy.
If there’s any pushback, open the net. People that donated 5k or more, federal prison. All Republicans house/Senate members? Fucking dead.
If they bitch, open it up more, their kids will have all assets seized, etc.
AviAdi@suppo.fi 1 day ago
Unfortunately the USA government will never touch their elites. So all this is hopeful thinking
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Our police have low end military equipment, that’s about it. Being militarized means not having fat lazy 40-60 year olds on the force, and America sure as shit ain’t there yet.
Our police love the optics of having military gear, but quite frankly they aren’t trained and versed on military tactics, discipline, or a number of other things that would make them effective. That’s why when there’s a real problem like a school shooting or hostage situation they just stand around sucking each other off while wearing body army and holding $1500 AR’s. They’re just security theater. They care about getting easy overtime. They want to go home at the end of the day. They don’t want to die violently. They are paper tigers
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Our police love the optics of having military gear, but quite frankly they aren’t trained and versed on military tactics, discipline, or a number of other things that would make them effective. That’s why when there’s a real problem like a school shooting or hostage situation they just stand around sucking each other off while wearing body army and holding $1500 AR’s. They’re just security theater. They care about getting easy overtime. They want to go home at the end of the day. They don’t want to die violently. They are paper tigers.
Weird, that perfectly describes the cops in the US.
Oh and militarized just means giving the cops military equipment, mostly armored vehicles and projectile launchers that wouldn’t normally be used in civilian work. Police are civilians, and I think they understand that in France better than anywhere, because you don’t allow them military vehicles and gear to fight the populace. Unfortunately, no other country got the message. We give MRAPS to our thugs with badges. It’s hard to fight back, even when you have pistols, shotguns, and rifles, when the thugs with badges have crowd control weapons. Sonic inhibitors, UV dispersal units, and lethal options like their standard issue AR-15.
4am@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I dunno where the fuck you’re from but American cops definitely aren’t fat 40-60 year old slobs. That’s one of the things that is so dangerous about them, they’re young dudes with a chip on their shoulder and shit to prove (and now let just ICE, they’re the bottom of the barrel but they’re hadly an exception)
Now if you’re from a rich community where everyone has gates and private patrols then yeah maybe it’s all fat old cops collecting a check where nothing happens because they roll out the SWAT team when people from “those other neighborhoods” get near, yeah maybe I see where the idea comes from
dreamkeeper@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You can’t speak for the entire US dude. The cops in rural definitely are fat 40-60 year old guys. Still got an AR in the trunk tho.
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 1 day ago
These cops, no. But these aren’t riot cops. Riot copsin France are legit monsters. Absolutely horrible.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Here in Bordeaux they just started gassing the legal movement super heavily, it was 100% peaceful (no shooting stuff or burning or even firecrackers) was moving for only 5 minutes (this is regular stuff, happens often). Old people, handicapped people, parents with strollers. My friend went to them (the riot police) and asked why they started to gas everyone and could they please let them (him) help people out (you get respiratory problems when you’re gassed, and people get disoriented, scared etc, people was on the floor, panicked), he got gassed.
So this seems to be a biig “blunder”, I mean if they don’t just not give a fuck, which they don’t. They don’t listen? Well then it’s french riot time I guess.
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itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Protest has always been the peaceful option. And governments somehow think it ends at the peaceful option.
Welp.