Comment on Hard Out There For A Woman

switcheroo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Dreamcatcher@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Calling stupid people gross seems kind of ableist.

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  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Intellect is absolutely a worthwhile trait in a breeding partner. It should be sexy to be smart.

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It will shock you but a lot of people have sex for pleasure, not for breeding.

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure. But there’s a biological component to sexual attraction. Hence the more important part of what I said, intellect is supposed to be sexy.

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    • Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stupid is a choice is as much as access to good education is a choice.

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      • black0ut@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You can be stupid and educated, or vice versa. Education isn’t the same as stupidity. Some people went to harvard and are stupider than a lot of people I know who dropped out of uni.

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    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And having all body parts is also a worthwhile trait in a partner. But that doesn’t mean you get a license to call them gross.

      Stupid is most definitely not a just choice.

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  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why are you assuming stupid people are disabled? Do you not see how this is stupidly toxic and ableist logic?

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    • Dreamcatcher@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not. I’m just saying that a lot of “invisibly” disabled people with (often undiagnosed) learning disabilities etc. are called stupid all the time, and reading something like that would really hurt them.

      This is an anecdote, I understand that I’m “arguing” here from the heart and I’m not looking to win any legitimate debate, which would be impossible while getting dogpiled this hard while I was asleep, but anyway:

      I watched this small streamer for some time, and even became her moderator. She would just not understand a lot of things, at all, and she was completely unaware how some things could offend other people, until I explained them to her and she felt really bad for saying them while not knowing the real meaning. She cultivated this audience of reactionary people, because they thought she was one of them because she accidentally said a whole bunch of edgy things. But let me emphasize this: she never wanted to hurt anyone, she always felt bad for saying hurtful things on accident and always deeply apologized when she realized she was being hurtful.

      Eventually, I had to quit, because the audience was too much for me. She was a great person, but I didn’t feel welcome due to her viewers and eventually stopped watching her. She felt really bad that I wouldn’t feel welcome, but there was really nothing that could be done without me banning like a third of her community. We stayed as friends for some time, and she opened up how sad she was about people calling her stupid all the time “because she wouldn’t understand some things” (in reality she had issues understanding basic things all the time).

      When I saw that comment, I thought of her, already really upset by people calling her stupid, reading that and being like “stupid people are gross? and everyone calls me stupid… does this mean… :(”.

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      • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not expecting to read this on a shit post. Thanks.

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    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re just less able in that category

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  • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This just in: insults are insulting

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  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s fucking stupid.

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No one cares even a single bit about disabled folks. Even so-called leftists. Honestly, especially them, it feels like so often to me.

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    • Dreamcatcher@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That or they overcorrect.

      On a pretty popular leftist Lemmy instance (Hexbear), you need to provide a trigger warning for “an ableist slur” if you’re posting a screenshot or quoting something that says the word “stupid”. Pretty sure you’re not allowed to say it in any other context (even for example calling the EU Kids Act “stupid”) or you’ll get banned for “ableism”.

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