Comment on Philips shouldn't exist. Torx plus is the best fight me

• CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Philips and JIS are interchangeable; it’s Pozi that’s not.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Have you ever turned these screws personally before? They are not perfectly compatible, just barely passable if the screw is in good shape and not too stuck.

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So, I wanted to go at the guy for not reading your article but in reading it myself I did find possibly missing something. Like, they talk about them fitting within one another but then show that there are definitely differences. Maybe it’s a case of the same number screwdriver not being equal but +/- 1 number gets you back on track, I dunno.

    The article definitely isn’t fully selling me on what they’re saying, though. I own a 1986 Ninja 1000 and have done extensive work to it(engine in half, whole bike in pieces at one point) and there was definitely something up with the bolts. I replaced them all with new button-head and socket-head hex bolts and life was much easier.

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  • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tell that to guys with Japanese motorcycles. I still get people bringing me engine parts to remove the messed up screws. It costs real money to get me to fixture those parts in my mill and indicate the hole in and then very carefully remove your stupid.

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    • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I usually replaced all the JIS with socket head cap acrews for this reason.

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• MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Roberson = square for anyone normal >.>

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We all learned what a phillips is, so we can learn what a robertson is.

    But, yeah, most of us need a reminder for now.

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    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Except apparently Robertson isn’t used anymore.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screw

      The contemporary square-drive screw has all but replaced the Robertson screw proper and is commonly referred to as a Robertson because it has practically identical drive dimensions and the same colour identification system, but the contemporary square drive socket has parallel sides rather than tapered.

      So it is a square drive, not Robertson.

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      • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Which is due to simpler and cheaper machining. Properly tapered Robbies are still available, they’re just expensive as fuck and you have to make sure your bit is tapered as well. It’s 1000x easier to seat a Robertson than a square drive, especially if it’s blind.

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Robertson = Robertson. “Square-head” is not clear enough, same as saying “hex-head” and not being able to say definitively whether you need an allen key or a socket. It’s not that difficult, just learn things.

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    • MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I know the proper name, I also know that Benny didn’t finish the 8th grade Smith is going to have no fucking idea what a Robertson is on the job site.

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      • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But he knows what a Philips head is? If he was Canadian, he would know Robertson.

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      • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Dumbing the world down for Benny is only hurting the both of you. I truly believe that some people are just shockingly stupid and that’s the end of it but you say Roberston enough times, without being an asshole, and even they will figure it out.

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  • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not a square, it’s better than a square. One of the sides is ever-so-slightly angled, so the screws stick onto the screwdriver before you get them in place.

    Torx is good. Robertson is great.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Roberson

    Robbie, if you’re not posh.

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