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SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Here are 5 Stalin Bucks for your contribution to the discussion.

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s just capitalism with state control

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    • cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s social democratic communism.

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      • PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s some tasty word salad!

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    • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      thats just china

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      • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s the USSR too

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• CultuurMarxist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  When you think communism is people bring nice to each other.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is that why communist states have an authoritarian leader?

    To keep the commies in line?

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    • daannii@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is no true communism present in the world.

      Calling something “communist” doesn’t make it so.

      Hitler called his party “socialist”. It was not.

      We call our country a democracy.

      It’s an oligarchy.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        True capitalism hasn’t been attempted either.

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    • IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      communist state is like triangular circle

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      • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Careful, that kind of talk gets you banned on .ml

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      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure, but before you get to communism there’s socialism, which has a worker state.

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    • CultuurMarxist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s so we can kill as many people as effectively as possible.

      Serious answer all revolutions limited to a single region or country collapse into reactionary autoritarianism because you can’t build a post capitalist country surrounded by capitalist countries without experiencing some imperialism.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Aren’t you worried that the earth will become reactionary autoritarianism being surrounded by capitalist planets as it is?

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  • PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I agree with the cum fart (Seriously).

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    • AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Markets incentivize and reward selfish behavior. A different system would incentivize different behaviors.

      I swear, it’s like we’re stuck in the 20th century when it comes to this. It’s like designing a multiplayer game. Throw a thousand people in a RUST server, they’ll behave one way. Throw that same thousand into Deep Rock Galactic, they behave completely differently.

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      • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, I feel like you are weirdly close to my view. Incentives matter.

        I’m not sure why you think that markets are inherently bad, though, or what incentive structure you think would be a better alternative.

        Personally, my view is that markets are a naturally occurring phenomenon in any sufficiently large and complex human society, and if we try to design a society without them, we will simply create bad outcomes, like the rise of a wealthy and powerful criminal class.

        My view is that, absent a better (and importantly, proven) structure, the best structure we have yet developed integrates markets into society in a pro-social manner. We allow legal markets, but create rules and guardrails to align incentives, so that the individual’s work benefits both themselves and society as a whole.

        An analogy I like is that of a river. A completely unregulated river will ebb and flow, often help water your crops, and sometimes overflow its banks and flood your home. If you try to completely remove the river, it will not disappear - it will simply build up and overflow, causing greater floods, and depriving everyone of water. If you create a huge dam and completely control water flow, then the water will flow very consistently and you can avoid floods, but you will disrupt local water ecology, lose a lot of water to evaporation, and risk an enourmous calamity if the damn ever fails. A large dam might be the correct solution some of the time, but typically the best solution is to let the river flow mostly freely, while building small dams for water reservoirs and power generation and levees near population centers to protect against flooding. It is not just necessary but beneficial to let the river flow, but we must also protect society from its excesses.

        So, too, with markets. They are going to happen, and they provide a lot of benefits to a lot of people. But the people and the government must be protected from its excesses. We can allow people to build and own a taco truck or a cement factory or a software product and make money on it, but we can create protections, incentives, and regulations so they don’t sell us toxic food, exploit workers, or buy elections and control politicians.

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• Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Capitalism relies on money, if you have enough its OK not being decent, lazy and a dumb fuck.

  We’re onto something here…

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• AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And capitalism relies too much on people being selfish, lazy and stupid sooooo… It’s working?

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    work:ng as intended

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• MrShankles@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hey look, its SatansMaggotyCumFart. The most decent of us all

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• brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What a bright young lad you are! Can you show me on your fingers how many years old you are?

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• communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why do you think socialism relies on people being that?

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