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TwistedTurtle@sh.itjust.works â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
Sex is too important to be cordoned off to just porn.
Not saying this guy in particular is right, but I hate this attitude that âporn exists so we shouldnât have sex, or nudity, or anything horny in other art formsâ. We shouldnât treat people like creeps just because they like/want horny art. Personally, Iâd love to see more horniness and sexuality in our art.
Personally, I find the current cinema trend of âeveryone is beautiful, but no one is hornyâ far creepier than the rampant sexualization in old 80s movies.
Afaict, nobody is making the argument that youâre refuting.
There is art that is elevated by being horny and art that is made worse by it. Being horny doesnât fit this character, and isnât relevant to the story being told, so it seems like a bad fit. Being a bad fit, the only people this would benefit are creeps who want upskirt shots of whoever, and I donât think thatâs a demographic to cater to at the sacrifice of the more vulnerable demographics that this film is targeting.
The cut of the leotard is way too much. But a leotard still makes fine sense for a super hero whoâs doing athletic acrobatics.
If anything the cape is the stupidest part of the outfit.
porn in america is hyper-aggressive and focused on penetration. thereâs no eroticism to it. itâs crass and disgusting.
thereâs something to putting on a 90s skinemax film wand seeing hot milfs wearing sexy, satin nighties tenderly riding men on a real bed in a real bedroom, instead of watching giant, unearthly cocks penetrating gaping vaginas in extreme close-up.
what a boneheaded take out of the OP.
thereâs a HUGE difference between what porn is selling and what turns you on.
porn in america is hyper-aggressive and focused on penetration. thereâs no eroticism to it. itâs crass and disgusting.
Truuue.
what a boneheaded take out of the OP.
Well, the guy theyâre talking to is almost certainly a Sargon of Akkad-lite who is upset that feminism is ruining his disney movies. I would tell him to go watch porn too, but thatâs because I like zingers.
Thatâs one of the things I didnât like about gal gadisrealâs version of Wonder woman. Her whole costume is half a step above a bikini with how skimpy it is.
ErrâŚthis is Wonder Woman youâre discussing, right? A skimpy costume is completely on-brand for the original.
Hey now - bikinis arent sexual. Only the male gaze makes them so
All modern swim ware is basically inherently sexual. Its literally the point of the âŚ
We literally went from modest swim wear which went sexual to speedos and bikinis because explicitly they ARE sexual.
Hell even the modern one piece and swim trunks the less sexual options are still designed to be sexual.
Its not the male gaze. Bikinis objectively speaking are by design intended to be and are sexual.
Half the fucking point of wearing a skimpy swimwear to the beach is to show off your body. Its half the fun for heaven sake!
Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
Maybe donât sexualize the character that, at least in part, is aimed at teenage girls.
modus@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Unless you your thing is teenage girls. Then itâs ok. /s
TwistedTurtle@sh.itjust.works â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
See, thatâs an example of a much better argument than âporn exists, stop being a creepâ.
MJKee9@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
I think you are mischaracterizing the assumption of the original âcreepâ as an âargumentâ and are misplacing the intents of the original response. The point of the post and the reason for calling the guy a creep (I say guy because weâre definitely dealing with a male here) is because he wants a movie that is not designed to be pornography to have elements that would be better placed in a pornographic movie. You are inserting a degree of kink shaming into the post that doesnât actually exist. Watching pornography and having a healthy attitude about sex is different from wanting to sexualize a story that is not trying to be sexual. That is creepy.
TwistedTurtle@sh.itjust.works â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
Again, Iâm not defending this particular guy - Iâm criticizing his dadâs response, which is an attitude thatâs prevelant today, especially amongst the youth. A lot of people hate on sex/nudity of any form in mainstream art, and their argument is generally âjust go watch porn you creepsâ.
Maybe Supergirl specifically shouldnât be sexualized (even though sheâs sexualized in most of the source material I remember), but if so, letâs come up with a better reason than âa containment genre exists for sex, and if you want to see it escape that box then youâre a degenerate!â.
blarghly@lemmy.world â¨14⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Using âmaleâ as a noun to describe a person is dehumanizing
blarghly@lemmy.world â¨14⊠â¨hours⊠ago
So we arenât allowed to sexualize Orlando Bloom anymore, then?
Katana314@lemmy.world â¨7⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Keep talking if youâve ever taken offense to the way Orlando Bloom has been depicted, or been made uncomfortable by his depiction. Otherwise, Iâd say let it go.
whereitsat@lemmy.zip â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
the actress is probably 35, who cares who the character is aimed at. itâs normal for men to see an attractive woman and be like âwow sheâs attractive.â
youâre pathologizing normal thinking and probably feeling incredibly satisfied with your lame response because you used the word âteenageâ and nobody would dare to cross swords.
grow up.
whereitsat@lemmy.zip â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
why is her outfit âsexualizingâ anyway?
even if her outfit didnât suggest âpantiesâ itâd still be sexy because it accentuates her form.