I used to respect that, same with them pricing the game at 20€ (not 19,99€, exactly 20€)… until they decided to increase the price over time to “adjust” it for inflation, instead of decreasing it like it is/used to be common practice, and then releasing a dlc that cost as much as the entire game, effectively doubling the price. 20€ was a fine price, give me a 10€ dlc on top of that and I’m still on board. But 64€ for the game and DLC? AAA price for no AAA value? Yeah, I’m out.
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thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Developers or publisher seem to think its anti consumer practice to go on sale. So I knew something was off when I read post title.
It isn’t about visibility or sales, its about respecting the players who have already purchased the game. We don’t want to reward the people who hold off on buying the game, the game is a price we find reasonable, and this is the deal. If you think it is priced too high, then it is your choice to not purchase, and we hope that with enough time, and extra development, we will be able to convince you of its value.
Not having a sale ever is part of our philosophy. In short term, they are good and bring extra money, but we are targeting long term. I believe that searching for sales is wasted time, and people should decide on the price and value, but putting option of wasting time to search for deals or waiting seems like bad part of the equation. As an example I would like to mention Minecraft. I’m not aware of any sale of it :)
Einhornyordle@feddit.org 1 month ago
wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Factorio has more value than the vast majority of AAA games I’ve played.
Einhornyordle@feddit.org 1 month ago
I’m not saying it is a bad game, but it is not a 64€ game
5765313496@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No AAA value? Rude. It has AAA value to me.
8baanknexer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It has far more than AAA value to me. AAA games are mostly boring imho.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No AAA value? It’s up there with Minecraft and terraria as one of the best games.
I’d say it’s better than any AAA if you consider the games above “indie”
Einhornyordle@feddit.org 1 month ago
But Minecraft and Terraria do not cost 32€, do not have a DLC costing as much as the basegame and gave us what,15 years of free Content updates? So this is not even close to a fair comparison, if anything, this further proves my point that Factorio is overpriced
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That was not the point. The point is that Factorio is in a similar level of quality. That is the top one. If you believe that 3X€ is too expensive for a top game, then you are saying that every game out there that is >30€ is overpriced.
If you believe that, you are honestly way out of touch with reality. 30€ is on the low side of a price for a game. Most AAA games are >60€.
1984@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Its worth it. People spend thousands of hours in it.
Einhornyordle@feddit.org 1 month ago
Hours played is the stupidest metic ever. Idc if most people disagree, content bloat is nothing worth paying more for, a high quality but short experience is way more worth to me. Games should respect my limited lifetime.
Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Everyone I’ve played with above maybe 15k premier rating owns a knife, so, in a sense, CS costs much more than $60…
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
i mean the dlc easily quadruples the length of the game, soooooo
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No. It just convinces me to pirate.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 month ago
As someone who actively sails the high seas, the devs and publisher of Factorio don’t really hit any of the marks for why I would pirate something in the first place.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 month ago
See, this is a toxic attitude. They are not charging an outrageous price. It’s not a subscription. It’s not an unfinished game. It’s not locked to the Epic Games store. It’s being actively maintained. It’s not being sold by a toxic publisher like EA. It’s an indie developer. Etc. etc.
It’s just a simple product, with a simple price. And you insist you have the right to obtain a copy of it without paying because they don’t offer discounts. This just isn’t reasonable. You don’t have a right to a copy of this game. It’s entertainment. It’s a product that those who work on it derive their lively hood from. It’s not food. It’s not shelter. It’s not healthcare.
jumjummy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t worry, I’m sure this paragon of wisdom would come up with another excuse of why they would pirate the game even if it did have a discount.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Yeah, “I’m cheap/broke” is a reason to pirate, but so many people shy away from admitting it. Simply because they feel the need to morally justify it in some other way. I guess because saying “I took this shit for free. I could pay for it but I don’t wanna” doesn’t feel good.
ptolemai@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I liked the demo, too. Bought the game after playing the demo
howrar@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
That falls into the “not purchase” category. Regardless, their point still stands. If it’s not worth it for you at that price and you still want to play it, you might as well pirate it now because the price isn’t changing.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Honestly its one of those games where I recommend people pirate and if you like it or feel like you got a lot out of it and think they do deserve it, pay for it.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I recommend everyone pirate every game to try it, and if you feel that it is worth the asking price then pay that,or donate more. I was playing factorio for probably 7 years before i bought it because i couldnt afford the game.That being said I did buy it, because it is a game that I have installed on multiple computers over the years. If I have to redownload your game launcher, I typically just buy it now. Before companies start trying to take advantage of this, if I have to uninstall your launcher because of a bug or enshittification the chances of me ever playing your gake again go down dramatically, damn near zero unless you gather cultural relevance for a decade.
SillyDude@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
There are so many games that I don’t even feel the need to pirate. There are plenty of games on my wishlist that either currently are or will be on sale so I’d rather just buy one of those. And with piracy I already archived full collections for various older systems, there are probably hundreds of S tier games that I’ve never played that are just waiting for me. No more downloads, no more payments, no accounts. I could fuck off for years and just play emulated games.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
One area where Factorio is tough to pirate is, they actually locked their mods behind a sort of DRM scheme where you have to confirm having it on Steam to download them. It’s a great game as just vanilla but I’m not sure how to get around that if you want to use mods.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Worth noting is that you can also get factorio DRM-free on the website, and then downloading mods is locked behind logging in with your account - same as playing multiplayer on online-mode servers. But mods are also just zip files that you can also download from the website (still need to log in and own the game), so same as games with steam workshop, people will share mods same as they share game files.
If that’s too inconvenient for you to pirate, well, “piracy is a service issue” ;)
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Yeah I have no idea where people share pirated mods, definitely would like to know, Beat Saber has something like this also with a different system (where somehow third party mod managers have ended up implementing this sort of check), and steam workshop as you mention. Anyway I do own Factorio (though not the expansion), it’s mostly just something that seems like a relevant factor.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yeah, they answered that: “with enough time”, they hope they can convince you to buy it.