The amount of SS troops who ended up unable to continue due to the mental after effects is staggering.
I’m interested to learn more about this, could you point me in the right direction?
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Possible, but highly unlikely.
For starters, if that many were killed, I think it’d be really hard to keep a lid on it these days.
Secondly, I’ve done a lot of reading on the atrocities of WW2, and two immediate constraints come to mind:
- Bodies. While possible, disposing of that many bodies without anyone noticing will be really hard.
- The gas chambers of ww2 were only planned during the Wannsee conference in 1942, long after the holocaust actually started. The gas chambers were built because the original plan was not sustainable: People killing other people at an industrial scale. No matter how vile a person is, the human mind was not built to deal with having to mow down swathes of humans with a gun. Even the worst SS troops largely couldn’t deal with killing that many defenseless people, even if they were convinced it was “for the greater good”. The amount of SS troops who ended up unable to continue due to the mental after effects is staggering.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 6 months ago
solrize@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin
Blokhin was selected for the position by Joseph Stalin in 1926 and led a company of executioners that performed and supervised numerous mass killings in the Soviet Union during Stalin’s reign, mostly during the Great Purge and Eastern Front of World War II.[1] Blokhin is recorded as having executed tens of thousands of prisoners by his own hand, including his killing of about 7,000 Polish prisoners of war during the Katyn massacre in spring 1940, making him the most prolific official executioner in recorded world history.[1][2][3] Blokhin was forced into retirement in 1953 after the death of Stalin and condemned during de-Stalinization shortly before his death in 1955.
notabot@piefed.social 6 months ago
two immediate constraints come to mind:
- Bodies. While possible, disposing of that many bodies without anyone noticing will be really hard.
They’re already using military cargo planes for “deportation” flights. Maybe some don’t have any live passengers, and they just dump the bodies mid-ocean. No need for mass graves, just load cargo containers onto a cargo plane and off it goes. If it lands with one or two fewer than it started with, that’s just a paperwork issue.
dan1101@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes. And based on everything else that MAGA and billionaires have been caught doing and defending, I think there is almost certainly widespread sex trafficking and abuse of the detainees. Why else would the administration try so hard to prevent Congress from observing the facilities?
If the Trump thugs act this badly on the streets then how horribly much worse do you think people are being treated I’m these secret detention facilities completely hidden from public view? This IMO will be seen as one of the worst chapters of our country once all the truth comes out.
Bad enough to end the Republican party in the long run? Hopefully.
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
ICE has always “lost” suspicious amounts of children.
Taniwha420@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s worth remembering that something like 5% of the population is sociopathic. That’s a lot of people who are morally compromised.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 months ago
More of them are sadists, as in nothing wrong with them, they just choose evil every day.
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Nazis weren’t able to fly easily over the ocean during WW2. You wouldn’t be able to reach Holocaust numbers with a plane, but I think “deporting” people but dumping them into the ocean could be possible and seems easy to hide.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Death flights have quite a long history, sadly, and were a favourite of far right South American dictatorships promoted by the USA…
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Bodies would be washing up on shore or limbs would be showing up in the stomachs of fish.
Strider@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think you underestimate the creativity and power of these people.
It’s exactly like ww2. People just didn’t want to see it. It will come out at some point. I am certain the USA is already using German KZ methods.
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I’m not sure that your second point is still a constant, though this is just an opinion and I’m open to discussion on this. They seem to have solved the problem of people not being up to mass killings, through desensitization through social media (I’m thinking of telegram groups specifically). There have been a lot of cases shown recently of people taking outright glee in their and others’ grotesque murders, en masse.
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Actually this is pretty good evidence they haven’t started doing that yet. There would be leaks.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
to add to this point, they have driven cars through protestors and approved of people doing so.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’d like to add that these people are evil, but also monumentally stupid. If anything like that happened you could be sure that the perpetrators would brag about it on social media.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think that’s why they’re letting measles spread in the concentration camps. They want them dead, but it has to look like an accident.