The crazy bit is how far north Europe is, relative to the climate we get. Almost everywhere else this far north is freezing
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exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
I find that so crazy. I’m German and for us Italy is always the sunny south where it gets much too hot for us. The USA iseems more like us climate-wise. I’d always thought New York would be a little like Berlin. Crazy to see how far south most of the US actually is.
pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Imagine the chaos in Europe if the ocean currents fail to bring warm temps up from the tropics and the UK, Germany, etc all start to get weather similar to mid-northern Canada which even Canadians try their best to avoid.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The US is fucking huge. A lot of our weather up north is closer to yours, but we’ve got deserts, rainforests, Florida is just outside of the tropics, etc. There’s a huge variety of climates here. The US is larger than all of Europe, by quite a margin. East to west it’s wider than Lisbon, Spain to Moscow, Russia. North to South it’s pretty much identical to Europe. (Technically Europe is slightly larger with the Scandinavian countries sticking out pretty far north.)
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 day ago
The US is fucking huge…The US is larger than all of Europe, by quite a margin
It is hilarious to imagine if this were real. Like what would European explorers and Settlers have done if they started mapping it out and went “wait a minute…”
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Looks like a huge improvement
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 day ago
I mean, you’d lose most of the Appalachian Mountains which as one of the oldest mountain ranges in the world means losing a ton of ancient fossils that helped piece together the biological history of Earth. I’d also be curious how the glaciers would be impacted given how heavily they shaped much of North America
You also lose several major cities including Toronto and St Louis, Canada loses most of its habitable land (assuming the climate isn’t significantly impacted by the existence of a second Mediterranean Sea, which it definitely would be) Chicago is going to be quite different but probably an even more important port city in such a world. Las Vegas is now a port city, so probably less casinos and more just major city. My wife would be sad because the Quad Cities (a metro area on the Iowa/Illinois border) wouldn’t exist and she really likes that area. I’d be sad because the Mississippi River would be much short and therefore way less cool. But it’s a really wild concept that gets crazier the more you think about it
foo@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Lisbon is in Portugal btw. (But that doesn’t change the distances.)
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Shit, you’re right. Too much EU5 playing as Castile, and then Spain, capturing Portugal.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
I like to point out that New York to LA os essentially the same distance as Moscow to Lisbon, while Seattle to Miami os about the same as London to Baghdad. That’s why St. Louis was the furthest west MLB team until the 50’s. The logistics for US sports are insane
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
The weather in New England and upper New York is very much like German weather, and sometimes worse. We’ve had snow on the grounds since the 30th of November and it’s only barely reached 0C in the last week.
It was -15C a couple nights ago at roughly the latitude of Rome, next to the ocean too. And only about 50km northwest (inland) it went down to -30C.
This has been a colder December than average for the last decade, but we have mountains that regularly get meters of snow each winter, and they are way lower elevation than the alps too. Also as we all know the last decade has been stoopid warm.
Mt Washington has measured the highest wind speed in the world.
bonenode@piefed.social 1 day ago
The USA iseems more like us climate-wise.
You’d think that knowing about Texas, New Mexico or Nevada? You probably have seen how it looks around Las Vegas at least.
huf@hexbear.net 1 day ago
based on what i remember, NJ (and NYC) had weather pretty similar to budapest. now, i’ve never been to berlin but i cant imagine it’s that different from budapest, just a bit colder.
so yeah, their weather is weird :)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
great place to grow olives though.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I always pictured Berlin as like the Midwest but with less tornadoes
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
New York is in line with Lisbon more or less
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
Gibraltar is about the same latitude as the Virgina/North Carolina state line. So southern Europe essentially ends halfway down the US Eastern seaboard
F04118F@feddit.nl 1 day ago
AMOC doing some heavy lifiting
en.wikipedia.org/…/Atlantic_meridional_overturnin…
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Also the Mediterranean acts like a huge heat buffer. It basically stops the polar winds from reaching southern Europe.
myserverisdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In addition to there being a huge mountain range in the way. The Alps block/slow down a lot of the cold air currents that do make their way down from the polar regions. That’s why cities like Turin and Milan still have cold climates in the north. Cold air still makes it’s way over the Alps but is slowed and is reheated as it travels south so cities like Genoa/Florence/Rome are much milder in the winter.
KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 day ago
A large part of it is also simply the fact that at the midlatitudes westerlies dominate, which means that western Europe receives mild air from the ocean, while the US east cost receives more extreme weather from the continent.
tomiant@piefed.social 1 day ago
That current getting phased out though.
F04118F@feddit.nl 1 day ago
Yeah I’ve been getting deprecation warnings every time I start
./the-beach