Comment on The ancient Greeks or Chinese should have already had words for this.

• Noved@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah I’m calling bullshit on this one haha, op is implying some people cannot process word if not spoken or written. That would be so unbelievably disabling you probably couldn’t function in society.

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• Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m convinced lots of people actually don’t think

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The proper way humans are supposed to think is with Critical Thinking Skills. It used to be taught in schools, often in English classes. Remember being taught how to write an essay from the General concept to down to the specific point? That was teaching Critical Thinking Skills, learning how to craft a coherent argument.

    Today, many states actively discourage the teaching of Critical Thinking Skills. Republicans in particular hate it. About a decade ago, the Texas Republican Party even included opposition to Critical Thinking Skills in their state platform, claiming that it taught children to defy authority figures. No it doesn’t, it just teaches them when those authority figures are trying to exploit them. They actually tried to position Critical Thinking Skills as detrimental to childhood education.

    If you don’t develop Critical Thinking Skills, you will substitute orderly thinking with a sort of ad hoc, improvisatory, chaotic thinking, which is easy for someone with a nefarious agenda to tap into and manipulate. Those with good Critical Thinking Skills learn to recognize and resist things like propaganda.

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  • turdcollector69@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Literally everyone does this tho. It only feels like everyone else because you can’t be aware of when you’re not thinking.

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    • saimen@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No, having kids now I am sometimes super tired only being able to function for the daily activities without much planning and thinking about others. This made me realize this state (or even worse) is probably normal for a lot of people.

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• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Easily we just do. It’s like breathing. We just do it.

  Can you explain how you breath? Or beat your heart? Or create blood?

  That’s how we do.

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  • Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is there anyone who can’t (partially) control their breath?

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• rhombus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Probably different for everyone, but I have neither and sometimes feel almost compelled to speak my thoughts out loud. If I don’t speak them they’re just kind of abstract feelings or impressions.

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  • NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My mom had a stroke that was caught early, and she was this way in the first couple years afterwards. I had to ask her to stop talking to me so I could read a menu, and she was self-aware about it. She was like “I’m sorry. Just tell me. I just have to speak my thoughts into existence these days.”

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    • rhombus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s interesting to hear about someone having a similar experience due to a brain injury. I have always wondered if my inability to internalize thoughts was some kind of developmental thing; if I don’t speak them or write them down then they’re really scattered and sorta incoherent.

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Vibes or visuals

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  • saimen@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Vibe thinking?

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  • Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How the fuck would you function without an inner monologue AND aphantasia…

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I don’t know, that’s hard to imagine

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      • RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Guards, send this peasant to the dungeons.

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    • Hugin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s me. Best way I can describe it is like a word cloud but no text or dialog. A bunch of concepts with varying importance and strength of connections.

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      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s like breathing, it’s just automatic. If someone points it out and I over think it then suddenly I go brain stupid for a second double guessing everything.

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      • TheHotze@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Me too. I think in the connections between ideas. Almost like thinking in metaphor.

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• MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My best guess: sometimes, one idea flows to the next in my head without the words. Usually I “feel” sentences falling into place at least a few words ahead of what I’m saying, at least kind of. But sometimes I just sort of talk, without the inner mo ologue, and it’s mildly confusing. Like, who the hell is building the sentences if it’s not me? And why does what’s coming out of my mouth totally agree with what I would be saying if I could build the words right now?

  Basically, sometimes the place that ACTUALLY assembles the words bypasses the self-awareness layer, and the words just come out.

  I imagine this is somewhat analogous to the people with no inner monologue; there are still thoughts, they just don’t take the form of words. Pictures, concepts, or even other things that make less intuitive sense to those of us with inner monologues.

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