Comment on Minecraft is removing code obfuscation in Java Edition

ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The monkeypaw says they will stop updates for the java edition or release a new version that doesn’t work on the java edition.

  They probably see how many sales are generated from the free work done by modders though. If someone wants to come along and do for free the thing you might have to actually pay designers, developers, artists and all the support staff for and they still need to pay you to play it, you’d be foolish not to encourage the exploitation of free labor.

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  • ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I was thinking the same thing. If the de-obfuscation tools are already out there, it might cost them more money to keep that layer. Their developers also have to use it to read the crash logs and the like from the sounds of it. Less layers = less maintenance = less cost. More mods = keeps the game relevant.

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Call me ignorant, if this happened and it brought a new golden era of modding (1.7.10) style golden era where everyone’s playing the same version I’d be maybe the happiest player ever.
    Modders backporting content wouldn’t be nothing new, hell, they even brought the mobs that didn’t make the cut from those stupid mob votes to life. Let modding become the new updates, fuck it.

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  • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Young generations and mobile players are on bedrock

    Everyone else plays Java where you can easily self-host a server

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  • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or a Bethesda style creation club is coming.

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They already do that for bedrock.

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• wabafee@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I guess it’s just doesn’t make sense to obfuscate it when mods in general runs the Minecraft community in turn making more profit to Mojang/Microsoft. My other suspension is potential competition. There is this game called Vintage Story which kinda directly competes with Minecraft seems gaining ground and was built to be moddable from the start.

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• atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Havent they been making changes to help mod/datapack development?

  Modding is such a big part of the game, helping it would get more people playing the game

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  • SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They made “datapack” which is a way of playing with mods without having to use third-party mod loaders like Forge and Fabric but (don’t quote me on this as I’m not a mod developer) it’s not as powerful compare to the mod loaders.

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    • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yup. Mods can change basically EVERYTHING, compared to datapacks being able to change only what mojang wants.

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• barryamelton@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Luanti eating on their turf.

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  • simple@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I doubt microsoft even knows what luanti is

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Whats that?

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s the platform that used to be Mine test, apparently

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  • pipe01@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lol no

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I wonder how good AI is at deobfuscating code. It seems like the kind of thing it might be good at.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    With how bad it is at writing it, I’m guessing similarly bad. It’ll do something, but odds are it introduces a ton of errors that you then have to track down. That’s the best case. Worst case, it just creates something totally different that looks similar to the input but doesn’t do the same thing.

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• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I said basically the same thing and got downvoted for it.

  Hopefully the catch is nothing, but you can never be too sure.

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• kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would advance: trying to keep the brand alive against the hidden giant of Roblox.

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• ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s a 20 year old game going into abandonware mode. This is the nicest way for them to do that.

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  • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    1. Its 16, not 20, the earliest version “Cave Game Tech Test” was in May 2009.

    2. They’re still actively pushing updates, a really big one is scheduled for the holiday season. Additional biomes and mini-bosses were added last year with structures hinting at development plans for a 4th dimension. The lighting engine is being actively redone.

    Minecraft is absolutely not gearing down into abandonware mode.

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And they finally added copper items 😂

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