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• xenspidey@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, paying for services you use shouldn’t be looked down upon. It’s way easier then trying to always be ahead of the ad block blockers. I do block all ads on websites though

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  • mkwt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I started Premium as Google Play Music back when. Made sense as an alternative to Spotify. In my book, it still does. Ad-free YouTube is just a bonus for a music streaming service.

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    • BigMoe@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Agreed. Family plan is priced similar to Spotify, and ad free YouTube is a nice bonus

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  • HeckingShepherd@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can afford it and use it all the time. It’s completely unreasonable to expect a company to provide a service for you for free without any way for them to monetize you. Hosting videos isn’t free so why should they pay for you to have access to their service

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They’re datamining us to the tune of billions.

      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and

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    • takeda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can afford it and refuse to pay on principle. I actually would be glad if Google went out of business (although extremely unlikely). Pianos Companies like them use every opportunity to cheat and modify laws to give them advantage and remove any chance of a new innovative competitor taking over. Then they expect us to act honorable and play by the rules that they set up.

      They are the cancer and we need to restore antitrust laws that supposed to prevent them from ever getting so big.

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  • copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It could just have something to do with the fact that many people think ads are not only annoying but also highly manipulative, creating artificial needs in people, a tool to make already successful and rich companies even richer, … and the surrounding technology to power them is unethical, hoarding tons of information, building profiles of people, tracking which websites they visit, what search terms they use, …

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    • LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      how much actually ends up in the creators’ pockets

      For most, very little. For the big ones, millions of dollars, and I always resent people lecturing me about “morals” because I’m not willing to subsidize a rich person’s hobby.

      Regular perople aren’t making anything from YouTube, only the ones who had the capital to invest in their channels upfront. I don’t feel compelled to pay for any of that, and I’d just as soon have their content filtered from my feed if it’s immoral not to want to see ads.

      The channel I use most often is Audible Anarchist, and I really don’t think they give a fuck if I use an adblocker or even Piped to watch their videos.

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      • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Never forget that youtube filters us towards those creators, too. New creators saying a new message? They aren’t gonna get any attention. Youtube de-prioritized LGBT and BIPOC content tags for years.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I know. I managed a YouTube partner account, but also I Googled it just now.

      $1-2 per 1,000 views is what I’m reading, but I can say I personally saw numbers at least five times less than that with the amount I managed.

      If anyone wants to support a creator, just donate money to them directly. They’ll be absolutely floored by the gesture.

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    • xenspidey@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree, but things like that have to be monotized in some way or else they would not exist.

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  • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not sure why you’re getting downvoted

    Because LemmyWorld is full of immature users who think that anybody who pays money for a thing they get extensive use out of is a shill. They think that using adblockers is somehow sticking it to The Man.

    I'm starting to understand why LW has the reputation it does now.

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, attempting to monetize every single thing in life is juvenile and short sighted as well.

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      • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How else do you expect a globally-accessible video hosting service that requires no upfront costs for users to upload millions of video files at the cost of several petabytes of data transfers every day to function?

        On donations?

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    • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      LW has a reputation?

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      • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        By being seen as the de facto "hub" for Lemmy, they've attracted a large chunk of Redditors who haven't left their Redditor attitudes behind them. As LW continues to grow, I've been noticing a lot more immaturity on the platform as of late. It's honestly a little disappointing to see.

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  • jackoneill@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah you can have YouTube premium and also use an ad blocker…. Being mad at YouTube is just the hot thing right now

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  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You don’t have to always be ahead. I’ve been using g revanced for years now without problems. Before that Vanced. My computer has had ublock origin with 0 issues for years prior to the recent changes. To resolve those I literally had to click 2 buttons in the UI. Bam no ads. Have had no problems since. The time I’ve invested in configuring adblocking since I started watching YouTube, sometime around 2008-9, has probably amounted to 20 minutes of time.

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    • LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’ve definitely saved time by using an adblocker/Revanced, compared to having to watch ads or keep track of a paid subscription.

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• Millwiller@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Revanced for android, SmartTube for android TV

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  • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Anything for Apple TV?

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    • almar_quigley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yattee

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    • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Possibly something like PiHole?

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      • Robmart@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        PiHole doesn’t work on YouTube ads unfortunately. No DNS based blocker does.

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• FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Once upon a time it was worth it for me too. But since every service is running up the rates, I had to decide which, if any, deserved my money. Google didn’t make the cut. I have a feeling nobody will by the end of year

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• takeda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  uBlock works on Firefox on Android.

  ReVanced replaces native YouTube app and Smart Tube replaces YouTube on TV.

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  • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That does nothing to address my moral concern, which is ensuring that the creators whose content I watch are getting paid.

    While I appreciate free things, I know that I can't keep getting free things if the people making them can't afford to do so.

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    • teejay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You could just, you know, send those creators money directly. Nearly all of them have methods set up for that already, and I’m guessing anyone who doesn’t would set something up in a hurry if you asked to donate to them.

      It’s a win / win. You get to sit on your moral high ground, the creators get paid, Google can fuck off.

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      • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        My subscription list is 100+. As much as I would love to support all of those creators directly, it's not a financially viable option for me. At least with my Premium subscription, they're getting something from my viewership, which is more than they'd get from me if I was adblocking their videos.

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      • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t think they really care about the creators. This is just virtue signaling.

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    • Arrakis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      YouTube ad revenue is a pittance. If you want to actually support creators, send them money directly.

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• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you paid the content creators directly they’d receive tens of thousands of times more than any of your views gave them.

  I used to work with a partner account, and I can tell you they make NOTHING for views compared to what Google makes.

  So hey, you do you, but don’t try to convince us or yourself that this is for the content creators. That’s like saying you order Uber eats to support the drivers, but you never tip them.

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  • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is about the compromises and concessions I'm personally willing and financially able to make. Obviously it's not the perfect solution, but we don't live in a perfect world.

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