As if any other OS has no vulnerabilities?
Comment on Asus and Lenovo’s handhelds get price hike as Valve pauses some Steam Deck sales
Rooki@lemmy.world 6 days agoWould still get a 1k steamdeck over a 600€ still overpriced switch 2 with 80€ rereleased crap. With vulnerabilities found in the first week of launch.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Especially considering what’s classified as a vulnerability.
The vulnerability on the switch let’s you execute unsigned code in user space, no kernel access or even hardware acceleration.
On the steam deck (like on any PC) that’s nit called a vulnerability but “running a program”. It’s literally the main use case.
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
And on Switch, it’s forbidden typically. Which is part of why people advocate for the Steam Deck instead. From Nintendo’s perspective, this very much is a vulnerability. It’s just not leading to custom firmware or ROM dumps from what I understand, so it’s not even close to the most significant vulnerability.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 days ago
That is true, of course. But that’s a vulnerability from Nintendo’s perspective, not from a customer’s perspective. As in, if this exploit gets improved on, it might lead to people running unlicensed or pirated software on the switch, thus potentially hurting Nintendo.
It’s not something that might lead to people getting their Nintendo-accounts hacked or stolen or something like that.
On a Steam Deck, the former concept doesn’t even exist. There’s no Steam Deck vulnerability that might lead to people running non-steam software on the Steam Deck, because it’s allowed usage.
What I’m trying to say is that vulnerability is not negative for the user or indicative of bad platform security for the user.
Rooki@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I mean its so closed off it should be.
lobut@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
I really want to root for Nintendo but they make it hard.
Opening up my steam library from a console was such a big WTF moment and then being able to suspend games was so mind-blowing.
It’s still not that beefy for triple-A but I’m considering getting GeForce Now running on it.
Rooki@lemmy.world 6 days ago
If i am honest i dont have any games that DONT run on. It can run cyberpunk, baldurs gate, a lot other AAA / Indie games.
If it doesnt run, the devs did something SPECIAL to f*ck steamdeck / linux users.
The suspend game feature is probably the biggest player, especially when its idle it doesnt use any power ( except of course the common battery drain ) in comparison to windows “sleep” it just blacks out the screen and maybe run a little less background tasks.
Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Same, though I hope the SD2 had some more power, I would like to play on a 1080p (or even 1440p) monitor with mouse and keyboard without sacrificing framerate.
Rooki@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I did that with the steamdeck dock its pretty awesome that it can run a higher resolution secondary screen with full hd and game on the side.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You would do that probably because you have a huge Steam library but many Switch users have a huge Switch library and want that performance upgrade. You and me are not their target audience but it remains to be seen if the Switch 2 will flop or exactly what Nintendo fans want right now. There‘s a huge difference between 600€ and 1000€ anyway.
Rooki@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Toe to Toe? At least the steamdeck can run Crysis. Switch not, easy Steamdeck win.
Performance upgrade on a already locked on 60fps ( some 30 ) games? on default on a LCD display? That they didnt even considered default on OLED display is just … cash grabby.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 days ago
And the switch 2 can run the new mario kart and the steam deck not.
Both of these games don’t run on the other platform because they are exclusives, not because the hardware can’t handle it. So what’s your point?
It’s just confirming what the guy you replied to was saying: if you have steam games and want to run steam games, get a steam deck. If you have switch games and want to run switch games, get a switch.
Rooki@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It will soon just wait.
If Nintendo allows you to play their games get not a switch ditch their platform with their 10 games.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
These are completely different devices for different use cases for different audiences with wildly different tastes. Nintendo hasn’t been in the “core” gaming space since before the Wii.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
They’re sure pricing themselves to be in the “core” gaming space now.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
You can spend more on mobile game mtx than a full triple A experience including the console and in fact most people do which is why the “core” is an ever shrinking slice of the pie that to GenA probably doesn’t even make any sense.
The price doesn’t really matter, my point is that you’re not buying a Nintendo switch to play GTA 6 and you’re not buying a steam deck to play Warioware Inc…
pycorax@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I’m not sure if the price matters that much to the demographic. Their main target audience isn’t gonna consider a handheld gaming PC to begin with.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 days ago
Main target audience: Children with rich parents.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Their demographic used to include families with multiple systems due to the hardware being cheaper than the competition. They’ve never sold a basic console for nearly as much as the Switch 2, nor have they charged $70 and $80 per game as a standard. Maybe it will go well for them, we’ll see, but there’s no precedent for the way Nintendo’s pricing things now.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 days ago
A handheld PC isn’t cheaper to buy, and most console gamers aren’t buying a ton of games either (like PC gamers do), so the total cost of ownership for a switch 2 probably still stays under the total cost of ownership for a handheld PC.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Wait, what?
First of all, PC gamers don’t buy a ton of games.
PC is the number one piracy platform for starters, seeing as it requires no jailbreaks and the like.
Secondly, PC gamers tend to own a lot of games legitimately because our gaming library doesn’t expire with a console generation, and because our steam libraries consist of many many indie games that cost a few bucks each, not a few $50 AAA releases.
My steam library is about 435-ish games. But that’s since 2013.
The total value of the account per steamdb is like £1080, this is a vast over-estimate because I used to live in a country where the entire GTA series before 5 cost £0.20, but let’s go with £1080.
If I bought £1080 worth of standard £60 games, I’d only have 18 games. That’s actually less than I even had for the PS Vita, and most people would be surprised to know that platform even has that many games.
Between the online fees and subscriptions to PS Plus etc., lacking discounts compared to steam, and the inability to pirate even an extremely high end PC tends to be far, far cheaper in the long run than a console, especially since it also doubles as the TV, the music player, the work and hobby computer, etc etc.
Rooki@lemmy.world 6 days ago
and lost it after the Wii U.
Switch was the last in the line of “inovation” and now they go for the cash grab.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
As much as I don’t enjoy Nintendo games and consoles anymore, I don’t think you can blame them for not creating new experiences.
Even the Switch 2 is creating a new way to play with its controls.
You can’t really say this about the Playstation 5 (which I own) or the Series X.
Rooki@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Dont even get me started on them, switch 2 is a cashgrab no discussion. The only new thing is a mouse…