Is your friend white while complaining about non-white emigrants?
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JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
I literally have friends who immigrated to the Netherlands and then complained that “all these emigrants ruined the Netherlands”… I was blown away…
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Well that depends on who you ask of course, white is not a constant, but if you ask them, yes.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They aren’t anti-immigration, they’re racist.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Could be both
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
If a racist says you’re not white, they’ll kill you over your protests. They may even pretend to think you’re white up until you’re useless to them.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
How did you know?!?!?
merdaverse@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Very common to hear this. I’ve heard family that were complaining that male only, illegal immigrants are moving in to steal jobs, when they were exactly in the same situation, just on the other side, some 20 years ago. It honestly shakes my hope in humanity.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m a descendant of immigrants in the Netherlands and there is definitely a small subset of 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants who is ruining it for all immigrants. PVV would have never been voted in as the biggest party if their parents (who never bothered to integrate and to learn the language) weren’t given permanent residency.
30 years ago people who pointed out the problems these non integrated migrants could cause in the future were labeled racists by the left wing parties at the time, even though the leader of the socialist party warned about this. The labor party who was in power at the time also didn’t bother to tackle this issue, since they relied on the immigrant vote. And now since the Muslims started their own center right conservative party, labor lost a big voting block and the fascists are in power because people have had it with the inaction of the labor party.
Same thing is happening with the refugees. The illegals who have zero chance to get a refugee status and who are committing crimes have soured people towards the real refugees. Towns that were once welcoming towards refugees want to see the refugee center in their town gone.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Same thing is happening with the refugees.
Yes they are being used as a straw man to scare and polarize people.
The illegals who have zero chance to get a refugee status and who are committing crimes have soured people’s attitudes towards the real refugees.
And it is working.
jwt@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Are you familiar with the situation in the Netherlands? Because points OP raises are not really polarizing in the Netherlands. Maybe you’re for example misunderstanding the phrase ‘The illegals who have zero chance to get a refugee status’ ?
skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Western expats in Japan are notorious for hating every other Western expat in Japan. It’s even got a name, “My Japan Syndrome”.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Is your friend the current minister of the justice department? Because that sounds a lot like her.
toofpic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I live in Denmark, I’m a “non-EU” person, but I’m here based on my skilled work. I do stuff, I am useful. So I have nothing against immigration in general, only against the part of immigration walking around malls in their slippers at 1 p.m., because they still haven’t spent all the money they got by faking disability.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is a good time to remind everyone that not all disabilities are visible.
Maeve@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Also that personality disorders look “normal” when societies encourage, promote, and reward personality disorders.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
How do you know they take disability?
How do we know you are not faking being skilled?
themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Moreover: even if they were disabled: does that somehow forbid them from buying things at the mall? Would it be different if they had different footwear? Are disability payments even enough for them to be able to afford to spend on frivolous things? Even if they are, is being disabled a good reason to forbid someone from buying frivolous things? If they’re buying necessities, isn’t it nicer for everyone else if the people who have the time to do their groceries outside rush hours do so then so the registers are less crowded?
toofpic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s just there are two distinct froups of people outside during the working hours: the slipper guys, and pensioners
toofpic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m working, I’m delivering what I have to, and I getting paid for it. For two years at the current workplace. As it is not a charity, I’m pretty sure I would be fired otherwise.
As for the guys in slippers - I don’t know about single one of them, but you know, when you:- go out of the office and see a lot of similar-looking guys with beards, wearing tracksuits and slippers, doing fuck all, seemingly all the time, or maybe they work in shifts
- the statistic showing that the number of disabled adult middle aged “refugees” is double-digit higher that the same number for Danes
, you start thinking there could be a correlation.
j4k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dichotomous logic is a sign of ignorant stupidity. Nothing about real disability is binary. Such a view is as murderous in the real world as were Nazi SS working in a concentration camp.
I would know. I am physically disabled, appear functional, but suffer far more than you could ever know. In the next decade I will die on a cold rainy night in a gutter somewhere after my folks die and I am homeless. I was killed 11 years ago, but I get to die slowly for 2 decades. I did nothing wrong. I just rode a bicycle to work and encountered a very stupid person driving into another at an unfortunate time that then hit me. It only takes one bad day to be exactly where I am. If you do not care about the social safety net for people like me, you deserve to learn the hard way.
Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Why does it matter how they look? Is it because your underlying issue is racism?
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
the statistic showing that the number of disabled adult middle aged “refugees” is double-digit higher that the same number for Danes
You know refugees aren’t a random sample of the population, right? Why tf wouldn’t there be more refugees from war zones, gang violence, etc with disabilities compared to some random Eestern European country with a population that for the most part deals with none of that? What brain trust managed to convince you that the only way to be a refugee is to like, win an Olympic sprint or something?
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
One final question, you work in tech right?
TheEntity@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It has nothing to do with immigration, the native citizens can do this all the same, and some probably do.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I do stuff, I am useful.
So go do stuff and stop trying to control what other people do in their days off.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So basically you just like to shit on less fortunate people. Class act.
toofpic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I talk shit about “not doing shit” people
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night. I am disgusted by your attitude.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Same in Canada.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
A Florida native once wrote that that the people who most want to stop Florida overdevelopment are the ones who brought their house last week.
raltoid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Almost 60% of Cuban-Americans voted for Trump, the second time…
CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do we know why? I have a friend who is Cuban and voted for Trump, but my reason for him is lack of education. What about everyone else?
RBWells@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I grew up with the kids of the original set of Cuban refugees and thought it was because they were the rich people fleeing Castro. So they were already aligned with the right here,they like the idea of being on the upper side of a class divide.
The newer ones may just be anti -abortion, there are a lot of those “single issue voters” everywhere not just here.
Carmakazi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Image
Because this image is burned into their minds whenever they think of Democrats. This happened under Clinton.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
they make the jump that the left = communism and that they’ve already lived
AA5B@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Have they seen how far right our left is?
I would vote for communism or most socialism either, but our left really has to move back to the left
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Castro is still winning…
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure it’s anyone who believes in the ongoing climate catastrophe.
13igTyme@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To Florida, overdevelopment is not about protecting wetlands or beaches. In Florida when someone talks about over development they are referring to all the new people moving there.
The other person’s comment is about how the snow bird that bought their house last week is complaining about the snow bird that just bought the neighbors house.
I used to live in Florida for 33 years.
It’s the same logic as Latinos who’ve been in the US wanting to pull up the ladder and get rid of the new Latinos.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
John D. MacDonald
bookshop.org/p/books/…/11739897?ean=9780812985283…
I’m pretty sure it’s from this novel, but I could be wrong.
MacDonald was talking about the environment long before the first Earth Day.