This only works when they engage in good faith. So no, you don’t want more tankies and conservatives, because most of them are incapable of that. Their worldview requires that they do not.
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GluWu@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I’ve said this before, and been(more than) down voted for it, but I want more conservatives, more tankies, more anything I don’t outright agree with. People will say how bad person in their echo chamber is in their echo chamber.
The early internet was so scarce it was important to find like minded people. Today the internet is so widespread it should be the opposite. It takes 5 minutes to find a entire platform filled with people who all think like you. That’s how we got flat earth conventions.
I’m confident in my beliefs and opinions, which is why I want them challenged. I want to think critically, I want difficult rhetoric. I want my world view to be challenged. I want to be uncomfortable.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 days ago
naught101@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Agree, but I think there are lots of people who are a bit more on the fence, or playing around with ideas. If someone says something stupid out of ignorance or inexperience, and they get blasted for it, they probably aren’t gonna learn much from it, and they might go hang out with the people who responded well to it…
Obviously if you try and it turns out they understand what they are saying, and are doing it intentionally, they can get fucked. Problem is it’s hard to tell sometimes, and not many people have the capacity to tolerate that behaviour enough to find out.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Idk… I’m not sure I want all their racist shit echoing around in here with us.
Plus so that paradox of tolerance stuff
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Jimbo@yiffit.net 3 days ago
I’d rather not talk with people that genuinely hate me, and/or want to kill me thank you.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s a hard pitch to a platform known to be unflinchingly rigid about their wind tunnels.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 days ago
I agreed wholeheartedly. I’m a weird mix of politics, radically left and radically right and also sometimes the middle. The radical middle, but fuck centrists. I almost never find like minded people and that’s why I’m here. And why I get banned from echo chambers sometimes. That used to mess with my head. That was a long time ago. I just don’t give a fuck.
volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Please tell us your radically right policy lmao
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Not OP, but here’s my radical right wing belief.
I say we deport the immigrants. ALL the immigrants. I mean anyone in the US that is an immigrant, or descended from an immigrant. Time to kick them all out! Anyone who isn’t descended from the native population, back on the boat. And damn it, this includes myself!
Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 days ago
Damn straight! And I think I found the place that disagrees with me the most. Even Tumblr in its heyday wasn’t nearly as left wing
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Me too - I can live happily with the fact that not everyone thinks like me; but I still want to know what the other people are thinking.
dilroopgill@lemmy.world 3 days ago
the bubble helps no one, remember everyone on tiktok tweaking when republicans were winning, they were also in their own social media bubbles and never see any of the “woke” mind changing type posts, mfs out here praising trump for low gas prices like they suddenly dropped when he won and haven’t already been low.
GoldenCow@lemm.ee 2 days ago
what do you think about treatlerism?
cm0002@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Problem is, they don’t argue in good faith, no matter what evidence or arguments you bring to the table no matter how long or short they’re right and you’ve just been subjected to brainwashing/propaganda.
Nor is it a debatable political position to be spread Nazi-ism or bigotry (which is what most right-wingers do)
zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Yeah, the marketplace of ideas doesn’t really work because people can just lie and other manipulative tactics, and people (yes, you and me too) fall for it (you are not immune to propaganda).
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
istg whoever solves this problem will win a fucking nobel prize.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 days ago
It’s already solved. You kick the reactionaries out. It’s just that a lot of people struggle to accept the solution.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 days ago
So you’re an authoritarian who wants to control dialog and define good and evil based on your own worldview? I’m anti racist, anti nazi btw before you start throwing strawmen at me.