If this is how the Western world arrives at harm reduction and UBI for everyone - that it’s just good business - I’m not even gonna be mad.
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lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 days ago
They are starting to rip out the cables used in car chargers. It’s only 2m long, costs £300 to replace and the thief strips out £4 worth of copper.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Like that would happen when they can sell £4 cables for £300.
Shard@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not that £4 cable costs £300. £4 is the scrap value of the copper once the insulation has been peeled off. Freshly made cable costs a bit more than that.
It costs £300 to fix because of the cost of the cable, labour and the workmanship.
Comment105@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Well, the ones making the cable still probably only make a small fraction of the value in labor. The majority of the inflated price goes to C suite paychecks.
I remember when I made 10s of thousands worth of cable every day from cheap materials and walked away with a couple thousand a month. I ended up quitting that job, but the slightly mentally challenged woman there who was the most efficient and accurate to spec probably still sits there making cables every day.
beaiouns@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Why scrap it when you can turn around and sell it right back to them?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 days ago
1: Why’s it $300 then?
2: All theft from Tesla owners is valid in 2025
3: Why do people assume they aren’t selling the expensive cables whole?
Schmuppes@lemmy.today 2 days ago
- Because the damage also includes labor and overhead, not just Material.
- We’re not talking about Tesla specifically.
- Even if the stolen cable was left undamaged, who are you gonna sell it to? The company that owns the charging station?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 days ago
1: Sure it does. Where’s the other $250 from?
2: Might as well be.
3: LoL
Schmuppes@lemmy.today 2 days ago
An electrician isn’t gonna charge a tenner for his time. He’s not your nephew who mows your lawn after school.
Clasm@ttrpg.network 2 days ago
1: Labor & Equipment.
2: Tesla owners don’t necessarily own the Charging stations.
3: They are icing wire cutters to remove the cables, destroying the cable in the process.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 days ago
1: Sure it does.
2: Fair
3: That makes sense. I wonder if the solution might be for the stations to just have ports car owners to provide the cables?
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 2 days ago
The cables are capable of 100kw and are thick and heavy
droans@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You know there’s more to it than just raw copper, right?
The cable itself, insulation, active cooling, labor, complicated build process, specialized installation, etc.
Don’t be daft.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 day ago
I’m sure they’re all handcrafted masterpieces of workmanship, lmao.
MadBob@feddit.nl 2 days ago
£300 is about $375, yankee doodle.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
Not everyone has a stupid cursive L on their keyboards, marmite
MadBob@feddit.nl 1 day ago
I can’t be annoyed by someone who knows it’s an L and correctly guesses I love marmite!
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That will be great when I’m on a long trip looking to charge in the middle of nowhere lol.
I have actually been stranded a couple of times already. Still love electric though
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
TBF they do have a large gauge wire in them
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
It’s not a long distance and they don’t have super large gauge. I’d have expected 0 or 2/0 but apparently 2-4 is common.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 days ago
In turkey there are a lot of people who gather cardboard for recycling for a wage of about 30-40 dollars a day
Is the USA version of this just pulling copper?
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Stealing copper, getting under older cars and cutting out catalytic converters, yes. Copper is not a big money maker but it’s better than collecting aluminum cans.
The problem with 90% of crime is poverty. They do hundreds of dollars of damage to make a few bucks. If we had universal basic income or better safety nets these crimes would nearly vanish overnight.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
In a world where correlation does not equal causation, crime would pre-date capitalism.
Oh. Wait.
HereIAm@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Ah yes, the feudal system was ideal for fair treatment and everyone had a roof over their head and a full belly.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 days ago
So you think the people who do this shit do it for fun? If they had ubi they’d still be crawling under cars to cut cats?
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
You’re a terrible human being with reading comprehension issues and a weak grasp of history. I would rate you better than our current president, who is a pedophile and a rapist. I would rate you on par with Alex Jones.
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Well, except that it’s nearly always super damaging.
The US version would be more like collecting cans back when they had a 5 or 10 cent deposit. Today I can’t really think of anything like that. Maybe driving Uber/Lyft. Or just panhandling/begging.
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Michigan still does 10 cents a bottle
MadBob@feddit.nl 2 days ago
People do that now in the Netherlands. The bins on the streets of Amsterdam sometimes have little holsters for bottles and tins so you can leave them for people who’d otherwise (or I imagine who still) dig through the rubbish for the deposit.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
Several states do this, probably more profit than door dash.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
We have recyclers too