I broadly agree with Zack Polanski here. I think this is a reasonable stance. I’m glad he’s taken a stance.
States have no rights. People have rights.
Zack Polanski says application of Zionism is racist and no state has right to exist
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Armand1@lemmy.world to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
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yeahiknow3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
decolo@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
holy based
States are made up. Borders are violence
Keep it up Mr Polanski
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I had a hard time watching Falcon and Winter soldier because i agreed with the bad guys too much. Borders are dumb and exist to promote violence and nothing else.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“borders are dumb”
But you keep borders yourself. We all do.
Why you doing something so dumb?
just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
For pretty much the entireity of our existence, we didn’t have borders. The modren notion of borders is intrinsically linked with the nation state.
And you are conflating borders with boundaries in your later sentence.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you need to sleep in my house, be a polite guest and you are welcome. Otherwise i will remove you. That is all.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Artificial nonhuman entities don’t have inherent rights.
Didntdoit71@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
Jesus…if only our American politicians had balls enough to say this.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Why does he always do this.
I agree with what he says up to a point, but then he always says something else and I’m like, no I don’t agree with that bit, that bit is stupid.
It’s like every time.
It just seems to be the green parties MO, it’s like the stupid argument around nuclear power stations, with the green saying you can power everything with renewables, no you can’t, of course you can’t, stop saying that, it gives ammunition to the opposition when you say stupid things like that.
yakko@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
You threw me there, what can’t be powered by renewables?
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
It’s not about what can’t be powered by renewables it’s that everything can’t be powered by renewables all of the time.
The big advantage of nuclear power is that it works 24/7, it doesn’t produce pollution, it’s wasted by product is something that can be dealt with and doesn’t have any environmental impacts, and it’s well understood technology that has worked for nearly 100 years now and we’ll still be reliable into the future. It gives us a nice stable based work from.
People are so scared of nuclear power because they don’t understand it, and so the Greens have taken the stands that there against it too. Not only does that risk our energy security but it’s pandering to ignorance something no party should be doing let of all the greens that are supposed to be progressive.
Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
What in particular are you opposed to for this?
rmuk@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I agree with what he says up to a point, but then he always says something else and I’m like, no I don’t agree with that bit, that bit is stupid.
Well, if your comment isn’t a self-illustrative example of this I’m not sure what is.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think states have a right to exist but not ethnostates. Even if its not states as we know them today, people need some sort of system to organize under tho i think its mainly a geographical thing.
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bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
“Asked by the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg whether he thought Zionism was racist, Polanski said: “I don’t think this is actually controversial.
“What’s controversial is that 75,000 Palestinians have been murdered in the last few years, including more child amputees than ever in modern history. So when you take that to account, the fact that they’re being murdered because they’re Palestinian – that’s very obviously a racist ideology.”
He added: “I think Zionism is racism in the practical application of it. Now the conference had a debate about the motion, about the word. I said I think debates about words are unhelpful, and I still think that.”
“Asked whether he believed Israel had a right to exist, Polanski, who is Jewish, said: “I don’t think any state has a right to exist under international law,” adding that the idea of a two-state solution was “for the birds” given Israel’s opposition to it.”
Armand1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ah, I should have posted a summary, I forgot, thanks.
Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
I think it’s a classic conflation of a Nation and a State. I believe all Nations have a right to exist - that a people with a common cultural identity have a right to that identity and to express that identity through their other rights, such as Speech and Assembly.
There has been a Jewish Nation for hundreds of years, before there was a Jewish State.
I don’t think it’s controversial that Jews (or even those who consider themselves Israelis in particular) have the right to form a government, that can democratically pass laws to apply to those who willingly submit to that nation.
The controversial part is that Government’s formation of a State that expresses sovereignty over territory it has no right to; territory that has been held for hundreds of years by people who are not members of the Jewish Nation, and who the Israelis have no desire to include nor enfranchise.
jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
waiting for the Islamism is racist vote… any time now
no state has a right to exist is a risky one lol
answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes what ISIS did was as racist as Zionism. They brought Islamists from around the world and went on to ethnically cleanse and occupy the land of everyone who was not Islamist in Iraq and Syria because their book said so. That shit did not have the right to exist just like Zionist Isrsel bring Jews from Poland and Ukraine and Europe and ethnically cleansed Palestinians for them because their book said so.