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• LostWanderer@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I honestly hate it too, low effort slop is never very interesting. If anything, I find it to be garbage and a waste of time! Now if some real modders spent time and effort mashing up two games, that would be different...It would be impressive and fucking awesome. The efforts of slop simps are only worth contempt.

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• Funwayguy@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Minecraft had a similar problem even before AI drove the slop into overdrive. MCreator marketed itself as a code free means to create mods, and soon cookie cutter clickbait flooded the listings. The problems came swiftly as MCreator wasn’t optimised and created numerous bugs or incompatibilities that the ‘modder’ couldn’t fix without knowing how to code. They effectively became a liability to pack devs who would be refused support if one of these slop mods were involved.

  Now we have AI accelerating the same slop for all games, with even shittier code, in a race to the bottom for the most clickbait garbage imaginable. These so called ‘mash-ups’ aren’t built to play nice with other handcrafted mods, and almost certainly won’t be maintained beyond their short-lived hypecycle.

  It’s all pump & dump mods cashing out before the waning novelty can’t outweigh the shitty quality.

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  • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Way back in the late 1990s, there was Slige, a program that generated Doom maps procedurally. With rather nice results, too. So people started posting these maps and saying they made them by hand. Map download sites had to start banning them.

    So yeah, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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• Mordikan@kbin.earth ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  These are slop, but it opens up to an interesting idea. Reverse engineering software isn't exactly an easy or quick process. AI could greatly accelerate that work. I'm not thinking for mashing two games for a quick video, but more like for Icewind Dale 2 rebuilds (the original source code is missing so no true enhanced editions exist). Or remastering old titles like Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura or even older games like Menzoberranzan and Stone Prophet.

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• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Eh. Mashup slop may look impressive on a technical level but ultimately it‘s just made for clips and clicks. There is nothing particularly interesting about these mods so far because the only people prompting them right now are AI bros. They lack creativity and a clear vision that gos beyond „What if Skyrim but you are Steve?“. It‘s painfully unimaginative so far.

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  • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Agree. It’s interesting to me for a hot 30 second and after that it’s really just nothing special. Kid siblings playing with Ken and Barbie alongside with 40k is much more interesting than this. It’s interesting if people create a story with the mashup, it’s not if it just exists in its current state. It will definitely slowly fizzle out for the next few weeks.

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• Pratai@piefed.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Vibe coding needs to be shunned across the board. People need to be shamed for this shit.

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  • arules@retrofed.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I am genuinely amazed there are people left that utterly believe shame works in the information exploitation age. What rocks have you all been living under?

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    • Pratai@piefed.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In this day and age, where all the kids relit on instant validation for everything they do- shame would absolutely motivate these kids to stop pretending they have skill and go back to being basement dwelling losers. There’s a big difference between:

      “Look at my slop!! I had nothing do do with how it turned out!”

      “_Wow! That’s amazing! You are talented_l

      and:

      “Look at my slop!! I had nothing do do with how it turned out!”

      “You’re a giant piece of shit for pretending to have skill and you bring shame to the house you pretend to belong to.”

      If people stop validating these clowns. They’d stop doing it.

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• aibliss@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My main concern downloading these decomps / mods / etc is malicious software.

  AI local or paying for tokens isn’t free. It still takes time to even get AI to “do it for me”. These are just flooding my feeds. What’s the catch?

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The catch it that a data center drained half a lake processing it, loses money in the process but the „vibe modder“ gets to make revenue on Youtube with ads for the clips I guess. I bet many of these creativity vultures have a patreon too. If you‘re anything like me you chuckle at a Mario 64 in Elden Ring clip and keep moving on, though. Why would I want to play that when both games separately are much more fun?

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    • Mordikan@kbin.earth ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The water usage thing was debunked and really needs to stop being used. It just invalidates the argument when used.

      Fun fact: The California almond industry uses more water than AI datacenters.

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• driftwood@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ship of Harkinian, the PC port/decomp of TLoZ:Ocarina of Time runs so much better than any emulator I’ve tried. I am fairly confident LLMs are used in the process but there’s a lot of care put into it. Added features for speed running, changing behavior to act as the n64, GameCube or 3ds versions etc.

  I think those are great but ‘Skate 3 in Minecraft in CODMW2’ just seems pointless beyond video ‘content’ 🤢

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  • maxprime@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The Spiderman skate 3 mod looked pretty cool if I’m being completely honest…

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• Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So bored with the whole debate. Anyone mad can just not play the fucking thing. Everyone is so eager to be a kill joy these days. Grow up.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah hardware got too expensive to play anything anyway. Just go play in a field. Woops! There‘s a data center now. Lets take a swim in the lake then. Woops! The data center drained it.

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• ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The first person to make one was interesting and a cool demonstration. But after that the rest are just boring copycats

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• tidderuuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I care less about the IP usage. That shits but going on since someone put Mickey Mouse in Doom and Thomas The Tank Engine into Skyrim.

  If all the AI companies can shit on IP then so can modders.

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• thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  These funny mashups and crossovers are fun. I didn’t play any yet, but I have a blast watching those clips and knowing the community goes wild.

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