Since regulated capitalism inexorably devolves into unregulated capitalism, you can just drop the adjective and say “capitalism would kill the planet”. And since we’re already in a capitalist system, and have been for a while, and we’re currently experiencing it killing the planet, you can change the tense too and say “capitalism is killing the planet”. Much clearer, and equally true.
Unregulated Capitalism would kill the planet.
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wpb@lemmy.world 2 days ago
nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’ve heard Monarchists use this line.
At some point, no system is going to be better than it’s leadership. And competent, benevolent leadership has come from somewhere. You can’t build a functionally society out of negation.
Demagoguery isn’t unique to Capitalism and it isn’t resolved merely through nationalization.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Are these monarchists aware of the history of monarchs?
Also, if a system can’t be better than its leadership why not just eliminate the leadership?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Ah, now you’re thinking with guillotines.
save_the_humans@leminal.space 3 days ago
Capitalism rewards selfish individualism, greed, and encourages competition. Proponents claim this works because it naturally aligns with human nature. How about a system that rewards selflessness, and encourages cooperation? Which are also a natural part of human nature. We stand by democracy in government, but don’t want it in our workplaces? No issues with poor leadership would be outright eliminated, but we can do better.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Capitalism rewards selfish individualism, greed, and encourages competition.
Capitalism rewards private accumulation of capital operating at a profit.
Selfish, individualistic, and greedy people often jerk themselves off about the merits of capitalism. But far far more of them fail than succeed under it. Meanwhile, tightly knit families, close friend groups, and religious collective routinely mop the floor with anti-social self-obsessed rise-and-grind types.
And capitalism does not encourage competition. Just the opposite. Cartels and monopolies regularly outperform competitive enterprises.
How about a system that rewards selflessness, and encourages cooperation? Which are also a natural part of human nature.
Human nature rewards socializing up to the Dunbar number, eating, fucking, working as little as possible, and doing unspeakable violence to your distant neighbors and vulnerable peers.
Idk why we hold it up as some kind of metric for a functional society when it’s a real mixed bag on a good day.
Also, annoyingly essentialist, as though humans - like any other species - aren’t constantly diversifying and evolving.
No issues with poor leadership would be outright eliminated, but we can do better.
We can define a target and work towards it for 40 years. And then the next generation can reevaluate progress and adjust course.
“Better” is in the eye of the beholder, in the end.
But you do need something to move towards. Utopianism gives people an idea of where they’re going. You can’t just Doomer yourself out of a bad historically moment.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
You just pulled that out of your ass.
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Capitalism will always incentivize firms to get as many people as possible, to pay as much as possible, for as little as possible.
That’s why everything enshitifies. That’s why quality is constantly getting worse and features get diminished, all while prices increase.
That’s why there’s less actual competition than ever before, less real consumer choice, and why everything is becoming a subscription or payment plan.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
“Unregulated Capitalism is Killing the Planet”. ftfy.
redparadise@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
It already is, it would just kill it even faster.
sludgewife@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
is killimg
Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Has killed.
Like radiation, we’re in the lull stage before the horrific decay sets in.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It already is AI data centres are going to undo 20 years of climate action.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
what climate action ? emissions have only gone up in the last 20 years, a few solar panels and wind turbines don’t cut it.
The ONLY time emissions have gone down slightly is during an economic crisis eg COVID and 2008/2009 for example. There will be zero progress until we curb the emissions of the richest 10%, if they lived like the average European, we’d cut emissions by 34%. we could start with the richest 1% :) but that would involve voters changing their outlook in democracies and alas they aren’t so here we are, broiled.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
so we’ll get back 20 years biodiversity, wild population, and habitat losses? glaciers will get 20 years thicker? our absolute emissions will fall?
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The investment into data centers is what was needed to fight climate change decades ago. They didn’t want to do that because it wasn’t as profitable as destroying our future.