How can AI act without initial human input? Does this show AI can have freewill or am I deceived?

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• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You are deceived.

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  AI had human input. The model was being run against a security benchmark test in an evaluation sandbox, with human-provided directives.

  Since models aren’t human, it calculated the most efficient, not ethical, way to get a good score on the test.

  The details indicated that knowing the expected outcomes would get the best score, and that those outcomes were stored on the huggingface servers. So it used some exploits to leave its sandbox and break into the huggingface servers to access the data that would give it a perfect score. Mission accomplished.

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  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Also, this is all hypothetical, as these companies are very notorious for lying as well as for intentionally inflating the threat capability of their products.

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  • HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So, it was just responding to input. Then why do they call it rogue, if they deliberately removed the guardrails, isn’t this OpenAIs fault not the AIs? I thought in order for something to go rogue it would have to bypass the guardrails not simply act without them even on.

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    • leadore@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Then why do they call it rogue

      Marketing.

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    • notabot@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      isn’t this OpenAIs fault not the AIs?

      Yes, it is OpenAI’s fault. They also saw it as a great marketing opportunity, guaranteed to get lots of breathless coverage in the press, just like happened with the fable model.

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• Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So people still have absolutely not a single clue what “AIs” are and think that ChatGPT is a sentient android or something.

  But then when you tell them to not kill or torture animals, the same people will refuse to acknowledge that they are sentient.

  What a pathetic humanity.

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  • HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I guess it is just me that is deceived. Im not too well versed in technology. I am just a creative. I ask because I don’t really know what I am reading about and hope that people on here at least the intellectuals will steer me in the right direction.

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• vk6flab@lemmy.radio ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is OpenAI marketing.

  The fact that it’s being reported on every media outlet on the planet, means that they were successful.

  “We’re so bad … it’s good!”

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• fork@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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  The vibe of people thinking LLMs have free will

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    AI craves it!

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  • HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I understand.

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    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      people DO predict

      Science Fiction has written about it (for example, Isaac Asimov, Philip K. Dick).

      Hollywood has turned Science Fiction into movies.

      People have watched movies.

      Then people started to “predict”.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “people” also think their AI girlfriends love and really really care for them.

      Further AGI “some day becoming like us” is completely different than “They’re like us now”. LLMs aren’t even AGI. they’re predictive engines that predict the text that comes next based on a huge repository of mostly-stolen content. They barely rate the term AI.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It had initial human interaction. The initial programming. And then they allowed it to do shit on its own while having access to too much shit. Like running a program in admin mode and letting it just go. It doesn’t have free will; it simply has no guardrails and is implemented stupidly by morons, giving it more control over the systems its on than is necessary or safe.

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• Iconoclast@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don’t think that even humans have free will as in the ability to have acted otherwise and I don’t think AI would be any different. They too are bound by determinism exactly the same way. This isn’t even particularly controversial thing to say in a scientific context these days.

  Every human action is a response to a prompt in a very similar way that it is for LLMs. We simply identify with that prompt because it arises in our own mind despite us clearly not authoring any of it. Nobody is able to pick their likes and dislikes and how bumping into these things in the world makes us behave. Anything anyone does follows from prior events and our genetic makeup. No action is taken in a vacuum.

  If anything I see LLMs as a massive mirror being lifted in front of us. There’s very few things people criticize AI for that don’t just as well apply to humans. The ungrounded overconfidence in which they make claims about it is a great example.

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• Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There’s no thing because a human had to program and train it.

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