Submitted 1 year ago by eriner@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
I made this game with a friend. We’re interested in your feedback!
I thought I was done when I guessed oven, but there was no clear feedback saying I won. Went to the comments for the actual answer.
So my feedback: fun game! If possible, perhaps add something like “very close” if you guess something that’s almost the answer but not quite. Or oven could have just been wrong, since that wasn’t the actual answer.
It said that it wasn't bigger than a housecat. That threw me off.
You know, I had the same thought of asking if it was because of bigger than something, and this happened:
⭐ Quizzle 18 1/20
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I was actually a little disappointed I didn’t get to play more!
Clearly you meant a cat as big as a house.
Mine said it was bigger than a cat
Lol I asked the same question
Y’all gotta put spoiler tags on your shit
I thought it was broken, because I asked if it was an oven, and it said yes… And then nothing. Just a bit confusing to people who don’t understand AI and fuzzy answers.
Wdym? You’re asking Yes or No questions, the word wasn’t oven, but the word WAS an oven, it was microwave. I think there was just a misunderstanding
I asked if it was an oven, and it said yes,
I’m hesitant to say that the current word is a bad choice, but it feels far too specific to me. I’m curious what questions one could ask after finding out that it’s a type of f___ that would lead to the exact type of f___ that it is.
Again, I’m hesitant to criticize the decision, because it’s entirely possible that I’m just dumb and gave up too soon
I’d rate this one “black diamond” level for sure.
is it alive? 👍 is it an animal? 👍 is it a land animal? 👎 is it a salt water fish? 👍 is it a tropical fish? 👍 is it commonly consumed in America? 👎 is it a common fish in home aquariums? 👎 is it a common fish in public aquariums? 👍 does it have a distinct color? 🤷♂️ is it larger than a bread box? 👎 is it a keystone species? 🤷♂️ is it a character in the movie Finding Nemo? 👍 Is it larger than one foot in length? 👎 does it have unique characteristics that differentiate it from other fish? 👍 is it a clown fish? 👎 is it an angler fish? 👎 is it a deep sea fish? 👎 is it a seahorse? ⭐
Agreed. I narrowed it down to a small species of ocean fish that was featured in Finding Nemo, but couldn’t figure out how to pin down a specific species.
I feel the same way to be honest, with the current question I did it all the way through and I was at odds end of what I could ask it aside from just straight out asking if it’s a specific type, third question in was the exact one that you spoilered out and yet I wasn’t even able to get a general ballpark of what it was in the next 17 questions.
Lmao I got the answer 12 questions in, but because I called it a _________ ____ instead of just a _________, it didn’t count as correct until I asked “is it a _________?” for my last question
We’ve implemented a fix to make it more lenient. Sometimes the synonyms and spellings catch us off guard (“raccoon” vs “racoon”), but we should have known about this one! Sorry about that.
I had fun anyway, and ain’t playing competitively. Long as I know I got it right, I’m happy!
20 hours until I can play again?! C’mon…
I came as far as asking: is it an oven 👍 Then: is it a stove 👎 Then wtf is it???
I never in my life have considered a microwave to be an oven, but obviously it is. I’ve never had one, so I have limited experience with it.
You do know microwave is short for [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven](Microwave Oven?)
Yeah, but it can also be a type of radio wave
I like the concept but some of the answers can be really misleading.
Can be carried, is found in classrooms, not made of plastic, and inexpensive. None of that points towards a microwave for me. Microwaves CAN be carried I guess, but who has microwaves in classrooms? My microwave has plastic cowling on the front, and microwaves are like 70-100 bucks the last time I checked. Some of that is on me for the phrasing (does it contain plastic I guess should have been used, as an example) but it’s a bit odd.
I agree, but I definitely had microwaves in my classrooms (small school, we would eat in classrooms).
Dead link, sad to see this one go
i made the mistake of checking the comments before playing so…
Yeah I don’t think anyone realized that everyone got the same word. Can’t blame em for babbling about it, but it’s a major bummer because now I’m obviously not going to play.
try it today! quite fun.
Does its prevalence cause existential dread due to consumerism in the western hemisphere? 👎 Does it make chicken rubbery? 👍
I got a no for can you hold it so I was sure it was a normal oven. You can definitely hold a microwave they’re not that big 🤣
I got a yes for can you carry it…
Oooh this is a cool concept, thanks for sharing! I'll add it to my rotation of stuff to play on my conmute.
I threw some weird questions here and there to see if it had issues, it didn't know how to answer either of these:
-Does its name start with a vowel?
-Does its name have less than ten letters?
Although that might have been due to my clumsy wording.
LLMs tend to perform poorly with questions about linguistic characteristics of words. We have tuned responses to gently discourage questions like that. We also feel that they’re kind of “cheating” at this sort of game. :)
Glad you enjoy it!
I asked the same question (does it start with a vowel) and agree that it shouldn’t answer even if it could but I have a suggestion: use a different emoji than the “I don’t know” one to mean “that’s kinda cheating”
We also feel that they’re kind of “cheating” at this sort of game.
Hehehehehehe that is true, I'll play fair instead of trying to see what it lets me get away with. Well, most days at least.
Haven't tried using llm for this kind of stuff so it's very interesting to see where its limits lie
There’s a cool one called chronogram that has an AI pretending to be an historical figure. You basically have a conversation to figure out who they are. It’s pretty cool, but now it requires you to sign up or use a Google account, which is a bummer
but now it requires you to sign up or use a Google account, which is a bummer
Aaagh I saw, what a shame. Sounds like a cool concept, but I can't be arsed to sign up with my Google or Discord accounts for a daily thing even if it gave a free budgie
I got it in 19, but only because I asked if it was smaller than a house cat and I thought raccoons were larger.
This is interesting. I’d like to see more words.
Is it wearable? 👎🏼 Is it a microwave? 👍🏼
This is too easy
I asked
“Is it living” 👎
“Is it larger than a microwave?” Wow you got it!
I would consider the answer to that question a no, not a “You solved it!” A microwave is not larger than a microwave.
Similar but I thought it worked around it another way lol. I asked if it was smaller than a refrigerator (y) and larger than a toaster (y). I arrived at it being an appliance in the kitchen, so I thought it just said yes for the first one and it was a refrigerator. I was sad when it wasn’t lol
I asked “is it famous”, which got a thumbs up. I asked “is it in North America”, which got a thumbs down.
It was an oven lol.
Actually the lastest one isn’t an oven as the final answer. My wife asked that and was like, “so why isn’t it over??”
This was my exact experience and I couldn’t figure out how to make it end. Was I supposed to guess which brand? Or was it something picky like a microwave oven?
Wow I didn’t realize it wasn’t over yet, thanks for the heads up. I’m still a little salty about some of the answers though :)
I asked if the word was a noun, and it gave me a “don’t know”. I asked if the word was an adjective, and also got a “don’t know”, so I gave up.
Asking about linguistic characteristics of the word is cheating in twenty questions! :) There’s a note about this at the end of the “How To” that’s linked on the front page.
The AI seemed to struggle with scientific names for #19.
The question
"Is it in the Actinopterygii class?"
was answered as no, though the correct answer should have been yes.
Same with me! I was binary searching cladistically and it spoiler >!it was a jawed animal and did not have hard bones!<. My search among the >!cartilaginous fish!< was all negative. Damn
I dunno how difficult to implement this might be, but it ought to be cognizant of Linnaean taxonomy. I just had one where the word was seahorse, but the bot claimed it was not a ray-finned fish.
The word for me was seahorse, but when I asked it if it had scales the game answered yes. Seahorses do not have scales.
FWIW - I had just asked the same and it said no!
Spoilers! :) I checked this one and it seems to have corrected itself. You’re absolutely correct, though!
It’s a really cool concept! Not much to improve regarding the UI. One small thing is, I found the thumbs up or down a bit less intuitive than seeing the answer spelled out
Looks like it doesn’t let you cheat by asking two questions at once! It works just fine if you ask it if it’s an animal.
All the answers were correct in my case.
Is it living?👎 Is it large?👎 Is it edible?👎 Is it round?👎 Is it electronic?👍 Is it a phone?👎 Is it a computer?👎 Does it fit in one hand?👎 Is it used in homes?👍 Is it used in kitchens?👍 Is it a blender?👎 Is it an appliance?👍 Is it for washing?👎 Is it for cooking?👍 Is it a stove?👎 Is it a toaster?👎 Is it a >!microwave!
Is it an animal / human? 👎
I think it didn’t handle the “/” here very well. I’ve made a change to hopefully improve the outcome of that in the future.
Cheers! I wasn’t sure whether if would recognise human as a mammal i.e. animal, hence the “/”. Will have another go another day! :)
I got 17 and I think it was a bat, but I don’t know because once I answered bat, the game quickly threw me to the main screen with no feedback, but it definitely wasn’t my last question.
Server resets at 00:00 UTC. If you had the page open before that time and tried to ask a question, it refreshes the page so that the server isn’t (unbeknownst to you) suddenly answering questions about a different word. We’ll try to add something to handle that transition better in the future. Sorry about that!
Those don’t live in Europe or Africa? Huh.
Nice. I got 17 and I would debate the size of that versus a bread box. Still got pretty much everything else right
I stopped using objects since they can vary just enough to mess with your clues. I asked if it was larger than a cubic foot.
Still could have messed me up cuz some can be smaller though… can’t win either way :P
I had no idea a ______ could be considered food……
What.
I asked if it was edible and got a no.
I also wouldn’t consider underscores as food
It said yes when I asked if the answer was a carnivore, but the answer was an omnivore.
Why we have to wait 24 hours for new word?
theparadox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Is it an oven? 👍 Is it a microwave oven? 👍 Is it a countertop microwave oven? 👍 Can it grill food? 👍 Is it a grill microwave oven? - exceeded the question limit, big reveal, answer was “microwave”. Interesting but I wasted a lot of questions trying to determine what kind of microwave it was because “microwave oven” was not accepted.
dom@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Even saying “oven” as correct threw me off. Ive never called a microwave an oven or a microwave oven. I was like starting to think maybe it wanted a specific brand of oven, or a synonym like stove
Skwerls@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Well actually…
An oven is something you put food in to cook by heating the air inside of it.
A range is the burner portion.
A stove is a combination of the two.
Yes this is pedantic and I agree that they’re often used interchangeably
theparadox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I had already narrowed the size down to a smallish (I forgot what I used for comparison) electronic cooking appliance so a full oven was already out. “Toaster oven” was negative, so I tried microwave oven route instead.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I asked if it was larger than a microwave on my second question and it gave it to me…
Carlo@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That’s weird, it accepted “microwave oven” from me just now. My last two questions were:
Is it some kind of oven? 👍 Is it a microwave oven? Yep you got it!