Submitted 9 hours ago by beep@piefed.world to [deleted]
You are not a bad person for being happy when bad people die. Unless you killed them. But even then the bad person part is the killing bit, not the joy.
cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/shit/p/1257101/you-are-not-a-bad-person-for-being-happy-when-bad-people-die-unless-you-killed-them-but
Today is a seriously awesome day. Happy day, everyone! It’s a little less evil!
Another concerning issue is who and what defines bad? The act of killing or getting joy out of it is justified by why. Your reasoning behind bad might be completely different from my reasoning, but we might agree that it needs to be done. But the reason should never be joy, it can be satisfying to rid the world of some type of danger but it should never be joy.
I think this is another case of the word meaning different things. The agony that a person may experience and the sorrow of their loved ones. Some will celebrate that death.
The cessation of malignant influence from a powerful person, and the net progress towards a more inclusive, equitable, and just society. A lot of people are celebrating that death
I don't celebrate. But I do use Grumpy Cat's line. Then move on.
Celebrating the death of another is bad actually, yes. And it does make you a bad person. You don’t have to mourn the dead if they’re scum. Speak ill of them all you want. But to celebrate another’s death takes it a step further. It means you’re severely lacking in humanity, in empathy. You’ve left civility completely behind. It lowers you to the same level of those you despise, and perhaps even lower. Are you a person that only has hate and bitterness in your heart? Change that so you can actually enjoy the better and brighter future that you hope for.
No empathy for those who are void of empathy
I have joy and hope for positive developments, and that is not diminished by my joy at one less active enemy of life
Peace cannot exist without a credible threat of violence
Wrong.
Paradox of Tolerance says today is a
Lol party all you want. I’m not OP. I don’t hold absolutist views on the morality of celebrating a death.
But the moral evaluation of an agent celebrating the death of another has absolutely nothing, at all, to do with the “Paradox of Tolerance”. At the first whisper of critical thought applied to the concept, you’ll find that people will always motte-and-bailey to “It is a descriptive paradox and prescribes nothing”. So even if it was conceptually relevant, suggesting the the paradox of tolerance actually “suggests” any action is already a misapplication.
You are free. You don’t need to appeal to anything. The guy was hurting people and now he can’t anymore. You don’t need any to reference any philosopher to give yourself permission to accept 1+1=2.
We cheer when the firefighters extinguish a blaze. We don’t mourn the loss of a jagged edge on a hand railing after a craftsman sands it smooth. I’m pretty comfortable with feeling relief when I land at a toilet when I rreeaallyy have to take a shit. The hangup that you can’t be happy that something that was hurting you is gone is the weird thing.** It’s incumbent on anyone to explain why you shouldn’t celebrate, not to justify why you can.**
Counterpoint: I am human, with a heart that can contain hate, bitterness, joy, hope, and all sorts of other feelings. To quote the words of Walt Whitman, I am legion; I contain multitudes.
Today, celebrating the death of evil is joy, but even so hate and bitterness often get a bum rap. They are sometimes our best motivators to act to change injustice, and as such, are vital emotions.
Bore off.
Some people are absolutely deserving of death and we should rejoice when they are gone.
Wow, what a stupid take lol.
Doesn’t count when the person who died was a fascist who actively worked to make the lives of marginalized folks even worse.
It still counts. Just because someone else has a complete lack of any moral center or humanity doesn’t mean that we should cast ours aside too and join them.
You celebrate when an epidemic ends, you celebrate when a fire is extinguished, you celebrate when an actively damaging piece of shit dies. Not that difficult.
Shut up Donny. You’re out of your element!
Celebrate that they are out of ways to do evil. Don’t celebrate death, it’s a tragedy every time.
It’s a tragedy every every time.
(Terms and conditions apply. Offer not valid in Palestine, in schools, on streets and roads, on death row, for most brown people, or in any situation involving an armed government agent, including, but but not limited to police officers, sheriffs deputies, ICE agents.)
Don’t celebrate death, it’s a tragedy every time.
No it isn’t. This one is long overdue in fact, a lot of harm would have been avoided if it happened a decade or two ago. The tragedy is that what I’m pointing out here is the truth, that humanity still has these floaters in the gene pool at all.
So many aspiring Zionists. Keep it up guys you’ll justify anything!
Explain why you think happiness over the death of a public figure who caused vast demonstrable harm to society, is similar to supporting a death cult ethnostate that murders children for fun and rapes people with dogs
Your opinion on who deserves to die is just that, an opinion.
When I celebrate the death of evil I don’t try to cower behind the actions of others I just admit I am doing a shitty thing I am not trying to convince myself that everything I do is moral. When you are so fucking sick in your stupid little fucking head that you can convince yourself that celebrating the death of someone is morally right then you explain to me how you are not an aspiring zionist.
socsa@piefed.social 4 hours ago
My grandfather killed Nazis and they gave him a medal.