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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Depends how fast banking catches up, and how much cash is still around.

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• slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Immediate? no. Rapid, yes.

  We have had mass communication since before the internet and those technologies still exist outside the internet. (TV, phones, radio)

  The internet is not as fragile as people think, small pockets of internet will come back online independently of each other and will eventually become interconnected again. Maybe a month to get a country up and going and then a couple more months to get continents connected again.

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  • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wonder how many would know how to get a radio if it came to it. “Okay, I just need to get a radio from Amazon… Shiiiiit”

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    • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Pretty much all cars come with radios…

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  • impairedimperator@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I see an immediate collapse followed by a quick recovery, personally. If the Internet goes down, a lot of other shit goes down too…until we get the old telegraph lines running again.

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    • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Those are just really slow internet cables.

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• Beetschnapps@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I doubt it. We all want to believe that a quick loss of service will cause societal collapse but the reality is people are much more resilient.

  Think back to the nyc blackout in 2003, you’d think it would result in mad max style craziness.

  But what actually happened was most folks chilling out together with no real crime wave and the only issue was bodegas overcharging fools for ice cubes.

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They said internet blackout. Which really wouldn’t be too bad in the long term. The world functioned fine without the internet for millennia’s before. The short term would be difficult, but lots of my industry would be relatively unaffected. Things would just take a lot longer, efficiency would be reduced, and there would be a lot more phone calls and hard copy files. Just like in the 70’s and 80’s, before computers were truly common.

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    • pwnicholson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      To the point of ‘how the Internet blacked out’ - a lot of what you think of as ‘phone’ today actually goes via IP over data, not analog voice. It would mean we all have to turn back on our land lines, which would take ages and a lot of business and logistics would be pretty rough for a while. Those few places with working phones would have lines of people waiting to use them until it was restored more widely.

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• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just internet? No. The world existed for a while before the Internet and many of the people who lived during that time are still alive and would know how to get by without entertainment. Of terrestrial television and radio are still functioning then the world will not lose much and continue on how it did 30 years ago.

  Just because many people can’t imagine a world with the Internet doesn’t mean that it is critical to life.

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  • andyburke@fedia.io ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ☝️ this.

    Please, if any of you honestly are entertaining the idea that the internet is necessary for society, I urge you to go outside and get some non-digital hobbies and/or meet some people offline.

    It's good for you.

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• Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  OP is on a quest to find a stupid question.

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Define what you mean by “blackout.”

  It’s a network of networks. If every connected device suddenly went offline, yeah, there’d be turmoil and a lot of deaths before things stabilized.

  But if you really mean “all the backbone cables went offline” or “all the ISPs shut down” or “all the CDNs crashed” or “the top 20 services vanished” then the answers would be different.

  The internet can technically run over carrier pigeon, after all. And some countries have already had “no Internet” days without collapsing.

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• akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No online pr0n? It would mean the end of the world as we know it. 😱

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  • thesohoriots@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have a friend with a meticulously curated collection (with its own Byzantine sorting system) on a massive hard drive he calls “the vault” because of this.

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    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have a few dozen GB of my own spank-bank saved… But that’s mostly an old habit from when I was a teen trying to beat off with awful WiFi reception in my bedroom. Admittedly, it is very nice being able to curate a collection that I know I like. It eliminates a lot of the “digging through five pages of things I’m not interested in, to find the one thing I like” decision paralysis.

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    • akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And here I thought I was bad for having a puny little LUKS encrypted USB stick lying around with “stuff” on it 🤣

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    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t know weather to laugh or cry

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• MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Depends what causes it.

  Nasty worm, no biggie, people will be confident it can be fixed quickly.

  Carrington Event (think worldwide EMP), instant collapse, planes falling out of the sky, computers fried, cars since 1990 (guess) dead, hospitals destroyed and on and on.

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  • Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, even a coordinated attack on physical networking backbones wouldn’t be TOO rough. We’d have to piece together what’s left and figure out what to replace, but there’s enough worldwide structure that we can do that in a pretty coordinated manner even without the Internet - it would probably just take a lot longer. I feel that a lot of the West would be the worst off, but surprisingly, a lot of governments already have plans for stuff like this. I feel even with incompetence, you’d be looking at 2-3 years max, but I don’t think you’d see Purge-style societal collapse or whatever you’re envisioning.

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    • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      it would just be a reverse covid where everyone goes outside instead of staying in their houses lol

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    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t envision anything Purge style, but a C.E. (look it up, 1859) would be really bad and I expect significantly longer than 2-3 years, Means of Production (tractors, industrial equipment, semiconductor factories, transport) would all be fried too. Can’t see us avoiding mass starvation in even 2 years.

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• BeUnique@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you’re worried about that, you should check out a Meshtastic node. Even if infrastructure fails, that network will remain online as long as there’s people using them within range and functioning GPS satellites in the sky.

  Since everyone that uses one helps transport encrypted or unencrypted traffic, there is no single point of failure.

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• Klear@piefed.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t do it, JC! The Illuminati will use it to seize control!

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• HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So. Its sorta impossible for this to happen and still have computers. The internet is mostly just logic systems on computers the transmission media can be kinda anything. Since databases have the records things might be slower but everything would still be there.

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• folekaule@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It depends how long it lasts. A day, two days, forever?

  We can probably deal with a day, but it would be very very expensive and take a while to clean up.

  Permanent? That would be extremely bad. Entire industries would collapse, with unemployment skyrocketing. Financial losses of unprecedented scale. I don’t even know where to start.

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  • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Medical systems would collapse and some people would die because if that.

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    • folekaule@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yep. A lot of things would go sideways in healthcare if the Internet was down for an extended period of time. Yes, there are paper-based backup processes and so on, but they can only hold for so long. I don’t think people realize how much stuff is already in the cloud that we all depend on.

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• Magister@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No, but I’m working from home so would need to go to the office… as a software developer it would hit hard!

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• Denixen@feddit.nu ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A financial collapse almost certainly and business would struggle until they find alternatives, especially the service sector. But manufacturing, construction and agriculture is not as dependent on internet for day to day operations.

  Social I think it would probably be a boom and when internet get back online a lot of people might look back at the blackout as a refreshing experience.

  At least that’s my take.

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