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If all communism is soviet, then all capitalism is colonialism and chattel slavery.
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Submitted 3 weeks ago by delightful@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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yesman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Fun fact about NATO and the Warsaw Pact:
Only one of these two entities had a fuckton of defection to the other side.
People wanted to escape from behind the Iron Curtain.
Imagine having to take extraordinary measures and worrying constantly whenever your sports teams, musicians, dancers go play or perform outside of your sphere of influence, because of the high risk of them defecting.
That’s exactly what winning social conditions doesn’t generate.
ceenote@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Prescriptively adhering to a communist ideology: ❌
Prescriptively adhering to a capitalist ideology: ❌
Structuring a government to be free of corruption and able to efficiently and rationally respond to problems: ✅
Binette@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Except the rational way to respond to our current issues is communism. Especially compared to the field of economics, communism and dialectical materialism is closer to what is observed in studies relating to work, living conditions and resource management.
delightful@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
mfs will say “we don’t need communist or capitalism, we need a new separate third thing!” then describe Dengism.
Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
ceenote@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Godort@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
The problem is always about authority. The system that enforces the rules is more important than the rules themselves
Communism typically fails because the systems that manage it are corruptible. Capitalism has the opposite problem. If there are no rules surrounding what industry is allowed to do, they will always choose the most profitable thing.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Capitalism has the opposite problem. If there are no rules surrounding what industry is allowed to do, they will always choose the most profitable thing.
That’s a lot of words to say that capitalism fails because the systems that manage it are corruptible.
It’s not at all the opposite problem, it’s just a different flavor of the same one. Capital infests the bodies that govern it to remove regulations that limit what capital can do, leading to the problems you mention. Not sure why you think the two situations are at all different.
Triumph@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
The systems that manage capitalism are also corruptible.
Any time it is possible for one person to control more resources than others, there will be corruption.
red_tomato@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A tankie’s dialogue options:
- It wasn’t real communism
- It was great. She’s just influenced by US propaganda
- It would’ve worked if it weren’t for US sabotage
- Capitalism is way worse!!
delightful@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]dan1101@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And hopefully it will continue IF you can keep the government for the people and keep billionaires, corporations, and authoritarians from having too much influence.
chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Same energy as “I have a black friend, I can’t be racist.” but with the uneducated smugness of a liberal.
Your “communist Polish grandpa” is irrelevant, nobody cares about his opinion. It’s standard reactionary drivel.
renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
is this bait?
felixwhynot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
USA can have one Socialism as a treat (it seems to be going well enough in Canada)
Asafum@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I was thinking about this yesterday, isn’t our “retirement” system a sort of reverse socialist policy? It’s socialist policy for corporations.
You pay a corporation so they can benefit (stocks) until you are old enough to retire and then pray there is money left to take back out to retire with as opposed to just fucking paying taxes and then the government would give you a retirement distribution when it’s time…
musicalphysics@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
If you buy stocks that money goes to the previous stock holder, which is most generally not the corporation.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The few attempts at communism have nothing on the all life on earth destroying efficiency of runaway capitalism. …substack.com/…/capitalisms-deadly-legacy-hundred…
culprit@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
mediafax.ro/…/most-romanians-consider-communist-r…
A recent poll conducted by INSCOP Research for the Institute for the Investigation of Communist Crimes and the Memory of the Romanian Exile (IICCMER) reveals that more than half of Romanians (55.8%) believe that the communist regime was “rather a good thing for Romania.”
What was grandma doing in the 1940s?
delightful@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]culprit@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Still better than capitalism according to them though.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Here they come!
Allero@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Communism and socialism do not necessarily equal whatever USSR was doing.
We may support socialism and communism without left imperialism and occupation.
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Okay fed.
Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Allero@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
en.wikipedia.org/…/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum
Do you consider it necessary to preserve the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics, in which the rights and freedoms of a person of any nationality will be fully guaranteed?
Yes - 77,85% No - 22,15%
Catgrass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Typical reactionary Pole
Godric@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
UkrainianBull@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Fuggen librul nozi it wasn’t rael communism
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As a Venezuelan currently living in Venezuela, I have always believed that the problem is not so much communism / socialism, but rather the incompetence and corruption of our leaders.
In fact, I could argue that if it weren’t for my country’s socialist policies, I and many people would have died of disease (COVID) or starvation.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I would think, as a Venezuelan living in Venezuela, your main problem would be the USA.
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It always has been…