Submitted 1 year ago by balderdash9@lemmy.zip to [deleted]
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Disclaimer: I’m not making fun of queer people, I’m making fun of the acronym.
I'll be honest that while I get that everybody wants representation, making the abbreviation so unwieldy is ruining the whole point of the abbreviation.
Personally I'm sticking with LGBT+, as it is easily memorable and effectively conveys the sentiment, even if it doesn't catch everybody.
Doesn’t the + catch everybody?
Pretty sure the Q was supposed to originally but the meaning/labeling changed. Then the plus. But people wanted their particular letter included directly and it got silly.
Yes but they aren’t getting first class representation so they keep adding letters to the acronym. It’s too bad literally no one outside the activists cares. Most of my LGBT+ friends think it’s a bit silly. Not horrible, not ridiculous, just a bit silly.
It’s certainly a thing the LGBT community is mocked for and it’s something that the vast majority of people just politely stay away from. That’s really too bad.
Most people just use LGBTQ+. Give or take the Q and the +.
I do find mocking the acronym to be rather overdone considering it seems to be a non-issue within the community.
And I mean... LGBTQ+ folks can bicker about pointless stuff. Have you seen flag discourse? Bi lesbian discourse? The fact that we don't argue about the acronym makes the cishets' obsession with it kinda funny actually.
Fair enough! I just wanted to make a meme about queer culture that wasn’t too offensive. I figured poking fun at the acronym was harmless enough.
By the end of the century, it'll be the full alphabet. I just say "queer" instead of going through the entire list. "They're queer", "It's queer-friendly", "that's a show for queer folk", "they're a queer couple", "so I swiped left on this queer woman yesterday...", "that's a queer-ally", ...
90% of queer people are right there with you.
that’s what the + is for
So much for equal representation.
Your sexuality isn't even worth putting in the main letters. You're just "other".
It’ll never be truly equal as long as there’s a fixed order of the letters. The only way to make it fair is to include all the letters (from every writing system, not just the latin because that feels overly eurocentric) and the guarantee true randomness of the order or come up with some system where the order is shifted by one every time it’s mentioned. Also, the original letters must be in the center to begin with (to make them equally distant for RTL or LTR readers), to make up for their historical over exposure.
If they put a letter for every sexuality that people identified with their would have hundreds of letters.
Eh, I’m asexual (technically panromantic asexual, but that’s way too much of a mouthful for regular use), and I usually just call myself queer. I don’t need to get into the specifics with everybody and their mother. Unless there’s a possibility of a relationship or someone is a close friend, it’s just not really relevant.
Also, arguing about the appropriate letters to include in the acronym when we should be worrying about stuff like members of the community being attacked and murdered on a way too regular basis, or being portrayed as pedophiles, or all of the attempts to roll back all the rights we’ve gained is just such a waste of time.
Ig pansexual
I like “queer”. It sounds cute and, from my point of view, nicely summarizes “not binary and/or heteronormative”.
I’m queer. If I think you need to know more, I’ll tell you ;)
Just say queer
Inb4 post removed like this was reddit
Just say queer.
GSM (Gender and sexual minorities).
Yeah there’s a reason I just stick with lgbt
I say lgbtq or lgbtq+ even though I think the q and + are kind of the same thing.
Two spirit and furry feel different from the rest tbh. I think they open queerness back up to views that it’s a choice or a learned behavior and not naturally human.
It’s whoever the right wing chooses as the next target, right?
The right wingers are lagging behind then. Have you heard of QUILTBAG+? Queer unisex intersex lesbian trans bi asexual gay.
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Honestly? Thanks for the disclaimer. Was really unsure how to feel about it at first. However… I agree. Want representation for everyone but the acronym does seem to change pretty frequently yet always leaves someone out somehow. I’ve honestly given up trying to keep track and just call everyone who isn’t straight and cis part of the “Rainbow Spectrum” or the “Rainbow Coalition”. I personally live on the corner of Magenta and Pink.
Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
if the ‘+’ includes every not mentioned gender/sexuality anyways, why can’t we just say ‘L+’?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
IT folks solved this ages ago.
{A-Z}+
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“The Gays™” generally gets the point across.
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Because then it doesn’t feel like equal representation for everyone. It feels like Lesbians are getting the most representation with everyone being an after thought. While lesbians are awesome, it does feel shitty for everyone else. That’s why so many additions have been made. It doesn’t feel representative of everyone or equal. Also why I throw the whole thing out and just call us all something else. No one gets specific representation but it goes back to the original meaning of the Pride flag. Every color in equal representation, showing the diversity of us all and how we all deserve to be seen and heard.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because L+ is the only streaming service I’d pay for
Seriously though the history of lgbt as an acronym comes down to the fact that it began with gay men and lesbians organizing separately and bi and trans people being part of those organizations, but bisexual and trans groups began differentiating and separately organizing while we all began realizing we needed to work together more in order to actually change things.
OneWomanCreamTeam@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
This is why I’ve always preferred the term GSRM: Gender, Sexual, and Romantic Minorities. It’s fully inclusive without ballooning out to an absurd size. I see no signs that it will see common use in the near future though.
MBM@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Ironically I remember it being just GSM. I see where the R comes from though
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve also heard this used as a pejorative but I really like the term, “alphabet mafia”
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
I do like it because there is some reclaiming and also some jokes but know who else I’ve heard referred to as the Alphabet Mafia? The Law Enforcement agencies of the United States
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Alphabet Mafia sounds like it could be a bit from Sesame Street where some wise guys teach you how to read.
Bloodwoodsrisen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I tend to use “The Alphabet Mafia” when referring to everyone under the LGBT+ acronym
iMastari@kbin.social 1 year ago
Honest question:
Is it bad that I would prefer to call them either Human, a person or by their name?
IMO referring someone by their sexuality or their preferred gender is akin to calling someone by their skin color or ethnic origin. Eg. Referring to someone as "My friend" in comparison to calling them: "My Mexican friend" or "My Black friend" or "My LGBTQ+ friend".