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How come NK doesn't just come out and say we are in trouble and need help? Like their lack of food and stuff? I really don't see a downside for a country admit they were wrong and need help

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • garth@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Since the mid-20th century, North Korea’s domestic politics have centered on the idea that the whole world is out to get them, and therefore they must be fiercely independent from outside influence. Openly asking for international aid would be like admitting defeat against all their political enemies, real and imagined. Nobody in power is going to do that.

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    • ruuster13@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This. Their entire system of authoritarian control depends on it. The people are brainwashed into believing it’s true and if cracks start to appear in the facade, the government could (and definitely would for NK) quickly lose control of the people. The regime would be toppled.

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      • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Not that I support the DPRK, but considering the massive rise of fascism, I don’t think it’s anywhere near ‘wrong’ to consider capitalism a danger.

        I criticise the DPRK for its horrific repression, but considering what capitalism in the US has brought, it is naïve to assume the US is all benevolent.

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Are civilians really brainwashed and think it’s true though? Or are they just like regular people and deal with it while getting through the daily grind?

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      • jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So OP nailed it lol

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      But they could do it and not tell the people.

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      • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It might not be that easy to keep it a secret

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  • FridaySteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A handful of ultra-rich people would lose a little bit of power and their entire social structure would collapse. That country won’t open back up without tremendous suffering, especially as long as the rich people in power stay rich and powerful by keeping things the way they are.

    Similar to everywhere else.

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yup. If red, brown, and cash fascism are all focused on extorting the many while benefiting the elite through corruption and repression, then is capitalism really a way to improvement?

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  • thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s simple, the people who need help are not in charge. Those who are in control, benefit from the horrible situation they put everyone else through. The entire country thinks the kims are gods.

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because that would result in regime change. The interests of the rulers and the interests of the country are not aligned.

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  • False@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They got a bunch of aid back in the 90s fwiw en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_North_Korean_famine

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  • IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    NK is run by A Supreme Leader Kim Jung Un.

    Kim’s title is Supreme Leader and he is a brutal dictator who was raised and educated in Switzerland. He is at least 100 pounds overweight and has everything he could ever want. The only help he wants is figuring out who in his government is a threat to his power. Kim once had a political opponent killed by having him shot with an anti-aircraft gun.

    Kim has 30 millions slaves who provide Kim and the ruling class with everything they want.

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  • Humana@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They already get lots of money without admitting their system sucks.

    You assume those in charge are interested in helping out the average citizen, they aren’t.

    nknews.org/…/north-korea-has-earned-estimated-20b…

    nknews.org/…/north-korea-to-receive-2-38m-in-huma…

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s been a while, but there used to be a joke that whenever NK needed an aid package, they would fire off a missile. This was in the years before the world went bugfuck right wing crazy

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the ones in power are probably quite well off there, so from their point of view the country is working perfectly.

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  • zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The leadership would not stay in power if they did that.

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  • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Juche. That’s why. A fucked, currupt and nihilistic interpretation of Juche.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’d open the floodgates for “”“aid”“” that actually aims to put up a far-right capitalist dictatorship.

    Socialist states only take aid from other socialist states and stateless communist societies.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Are you trying to imply a country run into the ground by a straight up dictator is socialist?

      Are you stupid?

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I just want to know where a stateless society exists ATM. Never mind how that’s to be achieved with ape psychology.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is the stateless communist society in the room with us now? Can you give an example?

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because they literally can’t? The NK government isn’t having the problem. It’s causing it, and also preventing people from leaving or even communicating with the outside world.

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